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I'm not very nationalistic, but I feel a little chuffed at some achievements and history. Even the old 'make & mend'/'muddle through' UK attitudes.
Seems a shame, although accepted that it was a different era, I don't see the same 'spirit' anymore. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic ... ary-Operation-Dynamo.html |
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flyboy | Re: Dunkirk- Little ships | ||
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Winston Churchill's famous speech (and others) after the Dunkirk evacuation, the "We shall fight on the beaches" speech is still very moving.
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Posted on: 2010/5/28 11:58
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It was a remarkable generation - I doubt if we'll ever see its kind again.
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Posted on: 2010/5/28 12:34
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TommyT-Bone | Re: Dunkirk- Little ships | ||
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Very moving. Set off a spark of patriotism in my heart. I was and still am an American patriot. The ideals of freedom still ring though they have been diluted by an endless parade of special interests and measures that have all but made true freedom in the US a part of American history. I remember when. I am truly grateful for the sacrifices of our heroes past and present from wherever they may call home. At least I had a glimpse of the dream. A dream slowly but surely turning into a nightmare. Thanks for the link Fluff.
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As "the greatest generation" is passing on, I wish I would have spent more time talking to my dad learning about his experiences and thoughts regarding WWII. He never talked much about the war and I'm the same with my daughter about Vietnam. He would however talk about the great influences from men like Churchill and Eisenhower and sacrifice. I feel that he had great guilt that he didn't die in the South Pacific and wondered why he was spared when most of his buds died!
I wonder how many Gurus have served? But then again its no ones business I guess. Wow I'm thinking too much!!! |
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Excellent Post Tommy!! |
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Fluff | Re: Dunkirk- Little ships | ||
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Without be quiet as eloquent as Tommy, which agreed was an excellent post, they had some balls making that journey across the channel. I was reading that some of the smallest 'ships' (only boats really) didn't even have a compass and were told to just head for the smoke on the other side!. Even Churchill was only expecting 20-30k to be rescued but they got closer to 400k. I agree with Tetron... the greatest generation is passing on... god bless em all, as Tommy say's... from all nationalities.
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Posted on: 2010/5/28 13:15
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No doubt if the need ever again arises for such a determined show of sacrifice and willingness to endure, we will stand and be counted with that generation. I pray that we never see the need for such an accounting. God bless our Vets and those still serving! |
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Vetron87 | Re: Dunkirk- Little ships | ||
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A US Navy Admiral was at a conference in France with other officers and Admirals from other Navies. He was in a group of admirals sipping cocktails all speaking English, when the French Admiral said, why does everyone speak english? why not in French?
Without hestitation the US Admiral stated that the Brits, Aussies,Canadians and Americans arranged so you wouldn't be speaking German. You could hear a pin drop!!! |
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teebee | Re: Dunkirk- Little ships | ||
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Ron, my dad was the same way. Never talked much about his experiences in Italy, Northern Africa and Europe, he flew in B26 Mauraders. Late in his life I found out that he was shot down over German held northern Italy, and only he and one other survived. Took them both 4 days to work their way back to allied lines. Just one story that he finally would talk about. Always kept tight lipped, finally, after making several trips to his bomber group reunions did he begin to let us know what he'd gone through, and downplayed it all.
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JrRifleCoach | Re: Dunkirk- Little ships | ||
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Agreed. We have become a land of "pussies" (aka the backside of a lamb). Afraid to say our mind, or laugh at ourselves. Unwilling to stand for whats right, or against whats wrong. Forfeiting liberty & freedom for security. Forgetting that history will repeat itself. Our fathers fought and died for their children's freedom and a better quality of life. We in turn, have pissed away their sacrifices. On this Memorial Day, I will again attend the Memorial Service at a local cemetery presented by our local VFW. I will cry for those who are vacationing and have no clue as to why we are here. And I will cry for those who died for me. |
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teebee | Re: Dunkirk- Little ships | ||
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Not sure if this is the place for it, but here's a story that my Dad wrote about one of his missions. (Written about 2 years before his death) Again his plane was shot up in this one.
Quote: A WORLD WAR II MEMOIR BY ALBERT G. BACHMAN |
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flyboy | Re: Dunkirk- Little ships | ||
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What an adventure! Reads like a movie script.
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Vetron87 | Re: Dunkirk- Little ships | ||
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Excellent Teebee. My Dad began to write about his experiences as a fighter pilot in the South Pacific. He finished 107 pages before he died of cancer. Shot down 3 times and wounded each time I get the sense he was more upset about his fighter than himself. I guess its a guy thing!
He became a Lt.of his Marine/Navy fighter squadron at 20. He never bitched about anything, just worked!! His carrier group left Pearl Harbor Dec.5,1941. His brother was on the USS Arizona and two cousins on the USS Tenessee docked next to the Arizona on Dec,7. Ironically his Birthday was Dec. 7th 1922 |
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moved to new topic
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Posted on: 2010/5/30 4:00
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bogus | Re: Dunkirk- Little ships | ||
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The WWII Generation are special. They had the greatest event in modern history, and as a collective, grabbed it by the throat and wrestled it to the ground.
I suspect, tho, that many of them will say the same thing: Anyone could have done this; it was just us who did. And to a degree, I suspect they are right. But in the years following WWII, we have become soft. We have sacrificed freedom for security, but at the same time, the world has become a very complex place to live. We no longer have enemies that have borders. Al Qaeda doesn't have a country. How can one fight an entity that represents simply a conceptual ideal, not one that represents a nations will or desire? WWII was such a unique global experience. Where two sides that formed up against each other were so focused on one single goal, and so diametrically opposed to the concepts of the Axis, that forming sides was easy. The only caveat? Russia vs Germany. It proves the old political continium is still right - go far enought left or far enough right and you end up in the same damned place. God Bless all the soldiers. Period. |
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