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Well car is running great I come around a corner this morning in the dark and boom I hit a pitbull. He takes off running and goes over the hills.
When I get to work I call AAA and they are awsome as always. Only about $3000.  Can someone interpet for me what all is being painted. Any idea how much of the hood. I see on it there is r&i hood Emblem. These guyes are top class in auto body. I just didn't ask. I will be dropping it off on monday after work. Lights are knocked loose inside body. Thanks Steve  I Repl Frt Replace Bumper 870.00U 2 Refin Frt Bumper 190.80 R .., .) USED BUMPER REF#5893621 4 .NO RECON COVER REF#5893584 5 Repl L Replace Parking Lamp 280.90 B 6 *** END OF ATG SECTION *** 7 Overhaul Frt Bumper Cover Assy 424.00 B 8 Repl L Cornering/Mkr Lamp Assembly 9 Repr Hood Panel 106.00 B 10 Refin Hood Outside 238.50 R 11 DEDUCT .20 HOOD BASECOAT -10.60 R 12 R&I Hood Emblem 10.60 B 13 HAZARDOUS WASTE DISPOSAL 5.00 Z 14 De- ib And Finesse 84.80 R 15 Repl FIBERGLASS FILL GMATERIALS 2.50A 16 EXPLANATION REQUEST l7 FLEX ADHESION PROMOTER (REPAIRED, 5.00A 26.50 B USED, 18 MASK ENGINE 3.00A 15.90 B 19 Clear Coat 121.90 R 20 TINT COLOR 53.00 B lO.OOD 21 FILL, SAND AND FEATHER 53.00 B 7.50D 22 PER PANEL 23 MASK FOR OVERSPRA Y 18.00D 24 Paint/Materials 405.10 P Attach file:  pitbull 1.jpg (3.25 KB) pitbull2.jpg (2.40 KB)  autobody vett.pdf Size: 486.46 KB; Hits: 166 pitbull3.jpg (4.20 KB) |
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| rklessdriver | Re: Body repair question | ||
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From what I can see they are getting a used bumper cover (Line .) and repairing the damage to the hood (Line 9). Your also getting a new corner marker light (Line 5 is the light itself and Line 8 is the labor)
They are painting the bumper cover (Line 2). Also (Line 17) - FLEX ADHESION PROMOTER, commonly know as "Flex Additive" is used in painting bumpers. They are painting the hood (Line 10). Now on (Line 21) - Fill Sand Feather... those terms are used to describe partial repair/painting of an object.... Probally the hood but you need to contact the shop to make sure wether they are going to "blend" the hood paint or paint the entire hood. Will |
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I will check when I drop it off monday that is why I was a little confused. What is also a pain is the paint color is no where to be found on this car. I think it is flame red. Steve |
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Is there any real damage to the hood? The pics are small...
If the hood is damaged, and I mean more than a little scuff - it has to be cracked or broken - then all bets are off... Your body kit was fibreglass, the new one will be flexible, so that will be an improvement. Apparently, they think there is damage to the underside - the big plastic matrix under the bumper. Possible, I guess. |
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| istter1 | Re: Body repair question | ||
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In picture 3 the part sticking out is the hood hanging over lower piece. If you open the hood it will break off a piece of it. Those other pictures were small.
Steve Attach file: pitbull3.jpg (380.37 KB) pitbull2.jpg (156.15 KB) pitbull1.jpg (199.02 KB) |
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| bogus | Re: Body repair question | ||
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Ok... no real hood damage. The part in front is just the bumper cover. And it's one of those fiberglass things from Ecklers or something. No biggie.
It looks like the bumper cover sacrificed itself for the hood, which is good! Hoods are expensive and CANNOT be fixed. If they break - and when I mean break, they are hit and fracture, like a bone, they cannot be fixed. Microfractures then spread under the paint, compromising the structure of the hood. The hood is a structural member of the car. With it compromised, you can pretty much expect to see the hood start to stress fracture within a couple thousand miles, depending on road conditions. Now, to clarify, if you CUT the hood, for vents or ducts, then you are ok. That's a clean cut and won't send fractures everywhere. Used hoods are about $1000 the last time I bothered to check. If I had to replace my hood, I would get a high-rise. Looks tough and vents more heat out from under the hood. |
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That's not an original bumper, someone replaced it with fiberglass. Heck, the original urethane one might have handled the impact without much damage at all.
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I agree, Kevin... that is the later style bumper tho... someone kitted it up.
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| istter1 | Re: Body repair question | ||
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So if I don't ask the body shop they may asume that the part they ordered will look the same? Steve Attach file: IMG00040-20100810-1641.jpg (260.24 KB) |
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Isn't the paint color listed with the other codes? Or was the car custom painted with a non OE paint?
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| flyboy | Re: Body repair question | ||
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You already have a replacement fiberglass bumper.
Who knows how a used urethane bumper will fit/look? Not perfect, I submit. Old, used=unknown quantity. When I needed a new bumper, I installed a new "flex fit" fiberglass one because I knew I could make it look perfect, with filler if necessary. It will be necessary. Also, good parking light housings hard to find. Attach file: P8140008.JPG (131.72 KB) P8160006.JPG (123.95 KB) P9080017.JPG (132.85 KB) |
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I was told the parking light housing would be a good one or they will find another. If I don't like the job they will will redo it. they claim. Steve |
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I'd ask them to give you the old bumper when they take it off, Steve.
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Funny you should say that. They told me they would save the parts for me. They knew how hard parts were to find. Steve |
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We went any place you could find a paint code on a corvette. This body shop said it is factor orignal. The paint shop I went to matched the paint to Flame red. There were a lot of other colors that looked just as close to me. It will have to be matched. Steve |
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that's not flame red. I don't know what it is, but it doesn't look like flame red to me. The paint code would be on the RPO sticker, which on the 87's is under the center console cover. The build sheet is located on the gas tank... finally, you can send the VIN to the National Corvette Museum and they will send you back a copy of the build sheet.
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National Corvette Museum and they will send you back a copy of the build sheet.
Thats the only place we haven't checked yet. Steve |
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It's $40.00, IIRC.
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Beautiful shade of red, whatever it is.
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I found it is not working right now I will try later. https://store.corvettemuseum.com/services/buildsheet.asp Steve |
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Any rough estamates of the value of a good running 87 vette.
Just waiting to see what AAA says on the repair. Steve |
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in this market, all over the place... figure $5k to $8k.
It does vary... condition, options, location. AAA won't total this - even tho it is a pricy fix, it didn't compromise the cars structure. That is as much a decider as anything. If, lets say, you got t-boned, anywhere on a C4, the car is toast. Period. End of story. Once the moncoque is compromised, the car is done. Hell, a guy over at CF had a 94 coupe, lost it in the rain and hit a curb with his RR wheel. Damaged the wheel, the bearing and dislocated the batwing - meaning - the frame was bent. Totaled. |
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That is about what Dave at the shop said. They should call me tomorrow.(AAA)
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I might need the old bumper if you don't keep it and the damage isn't severe.
Although shipping from CA to MI would probably be more than the bumper is worth... |
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Any body know the weight of the bumper? When it is off will send you pictures and then u decide. Then I will contact grayhound Great great news AAA sent an Appraiser out to see the Vett and put the price from $12,000-$15,000. The appraiser owns two vetts. lol Repairs will be done. The parts will be here in about 3 days should be done some time next week. I will stop by the body shop and see when I can get the old bumper.  Steve |
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istter1 wrote: Well two bumpers came in .The stock 87 and the and 1991+. They don't look like mine. They are going to repair mine and put it back together . It is a kit but not 87 or 1991+. So as long a it looks as good as what I have already and the repair is good. I am happy. Something has been modified. The rear isn't origional either Looks like I won't be sending my old bumper off. Sorry Steve |
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I have no idea what they sent you, but your front bumper is for sure a 1991-1996 style part.
This is a 1991-1996 REAR bumper:  This is a 1991-1996 FRONT bumper:  This is a 1984-1990 REAR bumper:  This is a 1984-1990 FRONT bumper:  And there is one final classification: Front and rear bumpers, for a 1984-1990 Corvette, to look like 1991-1996 Corvettes. The bumper caps are the same as above, but with a wider body trim:   |
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I'm sure that mine looks like the 1991-96 front and rear. The two they ordered from some supplier must be the one that is screwed up. He is there so called expert. Through AAA there repair is Guaranteed for the life of the vehicle. They say it will be ready Monday. It had better look good. I never doubted what you told me Andy I was just pissed off with the body shop. They are the so called experts. Life sucks. Steve |
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The fog lamp assembly is held in by friction clips and can pop off and survive an impact. Maybe yours did and will be reused. Can't tell from the photos.
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I stopped by the shop on the way home and showed Dave the pictures from Andy. He agreeded rhat the ones Andy sent me were the Probally the correct model. He is going to knock a bunch of money off of repairing the old one. He said everything the fog lights were fixable. So Monday if he finishes repairing and paint it it will be up to me to accept the job. He has sent the other two bumpers back to the supplier. Will know in a few days how it looks. Steve |
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All of the above pics came from Ecklers.
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http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb.d ... Z5Z5Z5YES~Z5Z5Z50000050F# 1984-1990 Lamps come pre-mounted! 91-96 Conversion Components: Front and rear update bumpers. 494209 91-96 Front side marker lamp (left or right). 334508 91-96 Front spoiler. 334535 91-96 Wide door moulding (left or right). 334531 91-96 Rear quarter wide moulding (left or right). 144434 95-96 Side fender with wide moulding (left or right). This kit no longer includes the front marker or back up lamps � Discontinued by GM. Ships truck freight prepaid. Call for Shipping Cost. Note: You will notice that we list these bumpers with the lamps installed. This is the best way to ensure the lamps fit properly. The holes and mounting flanges are cut and the lamps are professionally installed. $15.00 packaging charge Part# 144339Pkg KIT Instructions Price 3449.00 Well I found a receite for this part number from CC. So I am guessing this is what I have. Boy that was a lot of money to spend on looks. Former owner s spent a lot of money on tires and wheels also. So this must also be a custome paint job I am guessing. Steve Attach file: bumpers.jpg (15.38 KB) |
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I would bet money that the prior owner had a wreck and was looking to "fix it up"... either that or was a shallow bling addict...
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I would bet money that the prior owner had a wreck and was looking to "fix it up"... either that or was a shallow bling addict...
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Note: You will notice that we list these bumpers with the lamps installed. This is the best way to ensure the lamps fit properly. The holes and mounting flanges are cut and the lamps are professionally installed.
So this must also be a custom paint job I am guessing. Steve[/quote] The marker light mounting tabs on my replacement bumper were rough and had to be reworked. One of the Corvette reds maybe? Attach file: P8120012.JPG (144.05 KB) P8130002.JPG (117.50 KB) multi-red.jpg (55.67 KB) |
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I sent off to the corvett museum like Andy was telling me and if the build sheet gets hear soo I "may" know what it was at first. I have a friend that has an automotive paint store and we tried using the corvette colors and we were close on torch and flame. He mixed up touchup paint of both and they didn't match very well.
When I bought this from this guy the vett had $3000 + worth of tires and wheels on it with less then 100 miles on it.He lowered the vehicle an inch and every time he hit dip he would knock a piece of front air spoiler off. The tires are 19" falcons in the rear and 18" in the front. He and the first owner had every repair in a file with the part and repair listed and who did it. He had nothing about paintin vehicle or accidents. His wife injured her back and they just parked it. He was different. His garage was tempeture controlled with two other sports cars in it. He had bucks. Lived in one of our country clubs. Steve |
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no one around you has a matching machine? It's an optical device that takes a chip of paint and matches accordingly.
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