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Re: Turbo 4 in a C4
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I always felt that GM missed the boat in the 80s... My idea was to take the IROC Z, put the 1LE suspension under it, and a modified Quad-4 with a 5spd. M3 killer. Light, quick, excellent handling.


1989 Turbo TransAm 20th Anniversary limited edition

Buick Turbo 6 in a F body

I had one on order til the price came out.....then bought a 1989 Vette for a ton less money

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Re: End of the year Roll Call
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Re: Third fuel filter in 3 mos.
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Also, each time I changed the filters I was easily able to blow through them. I didn't notice anything come out nor was the gas an odd color.


Can't see anything....can blow thru them easily..

So why do you think they were plugged??????

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Re: MAF g/s again........
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Here's another screen shot at about 2800 rpm. Same log.


MAP here doesn't mean much since throttle is not 100% open.

My point is that the barometer is 102.21 and MAP is 99.8 which means you are losing 102.2-99.8=2.4 in the intake system...I do not how this compares to the norm, but I feel it represents at least a measureable loss of potential power.....if your dyno guy could tell you the correction factors for 102.2 vs 99.8, all else being the same, you would have an idea of how much power we are talking about...wish I knew, would certainly like to know..

Hope your bad wire/connector solves your problem

Good luck!!!

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Re: MAF g/s again........
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I am with you on having a extra spring for safety. But Beehives are used as factory equipement on many engines, including all LS engines.


Two springs equals twice as many things to break!!!

FWIW I used beehives and my engine revs to my limiter of 6800 no problem...IMHO beehives represent state of the art in valve train technology and to the best of knowledge have proven to be highly reliable

..but back to your concerns, looks like your MAP is at 99.8 at 5863 rpm......just curious do you have a MAP logged from this same run at a lower rpm??? ..going way back to your not enough air posts, which I am not sue if you ever resolved or not..

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Re: Early C4 cooling fan
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FWIW, fan failures seem rare on these cars and the only ones I've heard of had a hypertech chip or some other ridiculous fan control that had it on too often or 100% of the time.

The relay is probably more likely to fail than the fan.


I can't really back this up, but I am aware of numerous both fan and relay failures, at least on the later C4's with the two fan setup. Not sure if rare is the correct description or not.

The good news is the failures are not catasrtrophic and you end up with only one fan running or no high speed operation, but still have some cooling resulting in high temps...

Most fans run nearly 100% of the time anyhow because they run with the A/C compressor which for most of us is all the time. So I doubt if the Hypertech or similiar programming is much of a factor..

In summary though, two fans, three relays----more things to fail

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Re: What is an acceptable rate of pressure drop when testing the cooling system?
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I pressurized the cooling system in my 91 with a coolant system tester. The system dropped from 19 PSI to 12 PSI in one hour. There are no visible leaks. Should I be worried about an internal leak?


FWIW the instructions that came with my Stant tester specify a two minute evaluation period....

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Re: What will she dyno?
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406 rwhp @5200rpm
425-435rwtq (didnt see on the screen and hard to read on the print out)

only spun the motor to 5300


Great numbers, but honestly it sounds like you never reached the peak horsepower.....


and for racing you want to be able to rev above peak horsepower, if you don't damage the engine...if you are confortable with 5700 I would suggest you up your limiter to 5700

Good luck..

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Re: Got my rearend serviced
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Black means nothing... there is no real technical reason for the diff oil to ever fail. It has no real heat generation and there is no other substance to weaken it.

This is why the manual never states a service interval.

Not to say that it will be bad to do so, just don't interpret black oil as meaning it's failing or dead.


Just the gears rubbing against each other creates heat??? They are not friction free??

Differentials get hot????

Agreed the change interval is relatively long, but I changed mine and went to synthetic lube...

BTW I really do not think the factory fill was black. but I am not 100% sure..

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Re: Factory Opti at more than 6900 engine rpm
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So what's the highest RPM you've seen on your LT1?


Far as I know the LT4 & LT1 opti's are identical....so 6300 is no big deal as far as the opti goes....limiter on LT4 is 6400 with 6300 redline

On my modded LT4 I am using the stock opti with rev limiter at 6800...mine is not a track car but it has been up to 6700 or so quite a few times with no problem..

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Re: Early C4 exhaust
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Dale,

Just track down a stock LT1 exhaust system... There is a Corvette recycler in Indiana, Tiber(sp?). Or even calling Vette2vette.

The thing is, stock LT1 is a throwaway piece. Hell, wait until the next Corvettes at Carlisle and when they are doing exhaust installs, see if you can snag up on one!

You will need brackets and they are cheap enough. There is a front bracket, two middle brackets and two muffler hangers.

Easy.

Get the LTs and have them adapted with bullet cats to the stock LT1 exhaust.


The installers at Carlisle wont touch anything from the C4 Gen. Only C5 & C6. Redheaded stepchildren again....




Absolutely true...no C4 exhaust installation at Carlisle.

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Re: ZF6 Fluids
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http://www.stealth316.com/2-pennzoil-synchromesh.htm

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General Motors (Part #12346190)

FM
General Motors (Part #12377916)


I am almost certain 12377916 is not for the ZF6...wrong specification numbers etc

GM #1052931 superceded #12346190 which is now obsolete

Seems Amsoil is the only synthetic oil that might be truly suitable for the ZF transmission...Royal Purple says thier motor oil is suitable but I honestly have my doubts..

BTW I stopped in a local Chevy dealer.....they don't stock either 1052931 or 12346190..plus they don't have a clue!!

On another subject.... Wonder why GM is in trouble....they had one tube of normal chasis grease available for $16.95 a tube!!!!!! I had $115 to spend based on a class action lawsuit against this dealership so no discounts were available and the $115 went real fast....

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Re: Early C4 exhaust
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Dual 2.75" is 70% bigger than a single 3"
Dual 2.5" is 40% bigger than a single 3".

I guess the better question, is if you will even benefit from the extra area. There's a point of diminishing returns with exhaust sizing.



You forgot dual 3"...TWICE as big...it is what I have!!!!

On Dales car I wouldn't recommend 3"...stay with 2-3/4

Probably no benefit in 3" plus I think the 3" leads to higher interior resonance when cruising

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Re: ZF6 Fluids
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GM Synchromesh Synthetic ($$, not sure if it's a direct replacement for the regular Synchromesh or not.)
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The only GM synthetic I found is GM 12346190

http://paceperformance.com/index.asp? ... ion=VIEWPROD&ProdID=40902

Seems this is the same as Castrol SynTorq LT

This is not a synthetic synchromesh?????

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ZF6 Fluids
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I know this is an old topic beaten to death...but it would be nice to get all the correct options in one place

What I am really looking for is, I recall from an old thread is that GM has a synthetic available...part number???? I assume it is a 5w30....seems it should also be available from Pennzoil

FWIW I have been running the Castrol for several years, very happy...but time to change

Thinking I want to go back to a 5w30.....perhaps a horsepower two less loss in the tranny..

Central Coaster....I think you have all the answers

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Re: Early C4 exhaust
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I'm due for an inspection this year, and then one more after that before I'm exempt. They just do a tail pipe here in Ohio, no physical.LT1 only has 2 cats? So, going to an LT1 exhaust shouldn't pollute any more, just reconfigure the cats?



I am not sure you are totally correct on this..


Last time I did mine they just connected to the ALDI and looked for codes, no dyno test

However I really think they still do at least randomly look under the car with a mirror..


With my Collector Plates no more inspection for me


That's because the LT4 is an ODBII car.

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My point was regardless of dyno test or ALDI check they still might do a visual check with mirror.

The thing is that the testers are minimum wage workers with minimal training, that rarely last long...so I truly doubt they would know a LT1 exhaust from a L98 exhaust...thus I am sure Dale could do this upgrade and pass inspection even if they did a visual..

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Re: Early C4 exhaust
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I'm due for an inspection this year, and then one more after that before I'm exempt. They just do a tail pipe here in Ohio, no physical.LT1 only has 2 cats? So, going to an LT1 exhaust shouldn't pollute any more, just reconfigure the cats?



I am not sure you are totally correct on this..


Last time I did mine they just connected to the ALDI and looked for codes, no dyno test

However I really think they still do at least randomly look under the car with a mirror..


With my Collector Plates no more inspection for me

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Re: Mono-blade phenomena
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...remember your idle is actually controlled by the IAC and computer....too much air and the IAC runs out of control

..look very carefully, the TB probably is not going fully closed even when the engine is off...does not take much to let too much air in

...corrected similiar problem on my Edelbrock 58mm by simply bending the lever that connects to the blades to allow them to go a little more closed..

..fixed my problem

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Re: Coolant systems (clean and properly maintained)
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Those are good temps. Did you have the AC on in the first picture?


Operating at 179 degrees with a 185 degree thermostat does not seem to be a good temp???????????????????????

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Re: What's the best place for getting digital photo prints?
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How many photos do you want to print, is the question? If it's a lot use one of the online jobbers, if it's 5 go to target or walmart and do them right there while you wait. Convenience is worth $.17 a photo. That's what I do.

Matthew


..better yet what I do is send them to Walmart over the internet, use one hour photo and by the time I get there they are done and waiting for me...19 cent a picture

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Re: New TB, Hopefully more HP
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I guess you've never seen my intake before...
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OOPS! You are so correct...Sorry!!

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Re: New TB, Hopefully more HP
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After this dyno session, I'm pulling the intake manifold off and sending it to get ported and the plenmum entirely re-worked.


IMHO matching the intake manifold to the throttle body is essential and doing a dyno before doing this is, is a waste of time,

the air intake is still going to be limited by the ports on the intake manifold and worse yet I think you will encounter turbulance......my predication is you are likely to see a reduction in horsepower if you don't match..

FWIW I did enlarge the intake ports from 48 to 58mm when I put on the 58mm TB..

BTW it looks like you are doing a lot of things right, great hp you getting

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Re: How high do you typically spin your motor?
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Yes, but you're missing something.

Let's face it, anyone who just drives on the street and doesn't race should be in a Camry. It does everything better on the street than a Corvette, except break the speed limit.
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Hmmmm 269 horsepower Camray with a 6 speed automatic

It would fare pretty well against an early stock C4??

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Re: Gears and Transmission for the 421 and Top Speed.
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Top speed is never a consideration, just a "what if"

A good 1/4 mile gear (assuming you finish in 4th) will also be a good street and highway gear.

But I need a dyno curve before I can be your gearing "expert".
Sent!


Can you post it???

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Re: quarter mile vid of the belair
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best of the night was a 13.9@99.58 - just missed 100mph, i'll get it next year. .


Nice run......neat car

A trip to Norwalk would get you the 100mph.....

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Re: Wheel question...
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Just go with the factory sizes for the C5 wheels you choose and it'll work fine. I use Z06 wheels and that's what I do.


So your front and rear tires are different diameters unlike the C4's which have virtually identical diameters....

I assume this is on a 96.....if so did you encounter any issues with either traction control or antilock brakes???

BTW I went to a 35 profile on the 18" rear so diameters were all the same and the same as the 96's OEM diameters..

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Re: New pics, why not?
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If I could get the car to be reliable, and add about 50hp, I'd be happy. I think those are mutually exclusive goals.


Your car sure looks sharp!!!!

BTW I don't think adding 50hp worth of performance would really be detrimental to reliability.....

Enjoy

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Re: Wall Street magic.....
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The banks refuse to give you a loan for much more than the house is worth. .


...and this is a problem???

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Re: Weatherstrip conditioner or lube?
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Flashman wrote: Im not crazy about silicone aerosol dressings. The are made with heptane solvent and silicone oil. Its does rejuvenate rubber, but can only deliver the silicone to the surface with the solvent
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Why not use the silicone grease like GM specifies instead of the aerosol silicone???

Has anyone had bad experiences with GM's specification???

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Re: Weatherstrip conditioner or lube?
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GM specifies silicone grease aka dielectric grease...just a thin coating(apply, then wipe off leaving light film)

Works for me

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Re: Exhaust Installers at Carlisle
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I am not positive about this, but don't plan on having any work done on a C4 at Carlisle.......


Why not? They don't want these old plastic heaps taking up valuable space on the lift?


I talked with one of the Corsa installers today and they do NOT do C4 installations at events like Carlisle.

One of the reasons is that C4 cars are older and thus corrosion makes the installation more difficult. Plus the C4 exhaust system is just more difficult than C5/C6....

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Re: Primary tube math
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You might consider contacting Burns with your question..

http://www.burnsstainless.com/Xdesign/xdesign.html


They seem to at least acknowledge the effect of supercharging..

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Re: Primary tube math
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.........Now the wrench thrown into this mix is forced induction. I'm running between 6-8psi of boost. My camshaft has 2* of overlap at .050".

So I think we can throw out any sort of scavaging since the intake is pressurized.........
-- Joe



The main point in selecting headers isn't really flow.....in fact it is scavaging....this is the basis of long tubes being more effective than shortys....I think you are focusing on the wrong parameter regarding your headers ....having said that, I agree with CC that for the most part bigger is better as far as basic flow restriction goes....

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Re: Exhaust Installers at Carlisle
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I am not positive about this, but don't plan on having any work done on a C4 at Carlisle.......

If you are planning on it I would contact the vendor BEFORE going to Carlisle...

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Re: How much power and how much room to go 200 mph in a C4
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Why worry about 200mph when they will go 250+...

http://www.callawayownersgroup.com/COTM/2003November/cotm.htm


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Re: Interesting development, wish me luck
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you have to appreciate that the biggest hindrence to the L98 is the intake and exhaust. If you go and put freer breathing systems on there, it will allow the redline to increase.

I don't believe there is a physical limiter on the chip (there may be, but I am unaware), because the TPI intake stops revs at about 5100 RPM.


I am pretty certain there was a rev limiter on my 1989..

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Re: My buddy has a C6 and an attitude LOL
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I sprayed it, I had to, his car is 436chp stock which is where I would guesstimate where my car is without the juice. My car feels alot quicker though even off the bottle.




Yep, my 96 has fooled a few people too. C4s are still great vehicles

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Re: Very bad day.
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No rain in the forecast, go out to drive my Corvette to work. As I'm sitting in the garage warming it up, I notice lots of smoke. Lots of smoke. White smoke, continuous. Not just a puff on startup. I didn't have time to look at anything I had to get to work, where I am now.
I think I'm just going to have to park it. I can't afford head gaskets right now.



Perhaps a stupid question...but is it coming out the exhaust pipe??? Everyone appears to have assumed this, but you don't really say...


BTW my 1989 got lost in a cloud of smoke from oil leaking onto the exhaust manifold...it indeed was continuous and catastrophic looking...almost blocked my vision at a stop sign....not a blown head gasket

Good luck...

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Re: Analytic software, which one?
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Any of you guys used Ease?


I have an Ease Code Reader. Great product but was way overpriced...lower priced units would do the same functions

IMHO their products are high quality but also too high $$

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Re: Tune up time, L98
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Passenger back 2, nearest the firewall, are the worst?

Does anyone bother to torque these things to specs? Or just snug them good and tight, (as I have with other cars)?


IMHO anytime you are threading something into aluminum you want to use a torque wrench.

I did the plugs once on my LT4 and used a torque wrench....seems like there was only one plug where it was questionable if I got to the correct torque or not..

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Re: My LT4 Experience
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4.10 gears will really wake up your low speed performance, especially in 1st gear


I know, I've thought about it. I'm just so used to 1700rpms at 70mph. Hey, I've still got a Hot Cam to install. It was supposed to go into the LT1 along with your old LT4 1.6 RRs that I bought from you years ago...


You will hardly notice going just under 2000 rpm vs 1700 rpm at 70 mph. I lost less than 2 mpg cruising with the 4.10's.

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Re: My LT4 Experience
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In fact, with the LT4, I don't really feel that acceleration until I'm in the 3500-4000rpm range and by then, in a 45mph zone, there's no point in even using third gear as I'm already past 50, .


4.10 gears will really wake up your low speed performance, especially in 1st gear

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Re: My LT4 Experience
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Found a 1996 for $8500$8500$8500$8500. Black with saddle int, with a Blue Tag ZF6, and not an LT1, but the infamous LT4. Immediately thought this was it. It was in the price range, and it was an LT4, how could you beat that.


First off, the suspension was really sloppy... so was the steering. It rode more like my 96 Impala then a corvette; which is fine for my 96 Impala but not OK for a Corvette. I also found the 330HP LT4 to be severly under powered. It barley pulled for a dead stop and even up top at around 100MPH it just didn't move like my L98. It also rattled like a taxi cab, and just generally was not fun to drive.
What do you think?

Dan


I think you found a 96 that is a POS and not worth even $8500!!!

Suspension, steering etc. are not associated with LT4...same as an LT1

BTW I owned a new 1989 L98 and replaced it with a new 1996 LT4......both nice cars, but the LT4 is both faster and more economical...don't bash the LT4 because you test drove a beater

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Re: High RPM electrical issue
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That thought enter my mind too but here is what I found today.I went and did some more testing. I used the analog gage last night ( I know better DUH) but today I used the digital. With lights off it drops to 12.2V from ~14.2V with lights on it drops to 11.8V. I did notice the battery reading 11.5V before start up with the key on. So I guess it rules the ground out. Seems a little low on the battery to start and I am leaning more towards the belt/ alternator as the cause.


Start with the basics!!!! A battery reading of 11.5 volts on a vehicle that has recently been driven is bad...

I would first start with the battery connections...make sure they are clean & tight......I see more batteries etc being replaced because of bad connections than bad batteries
...not sure how you ruled the ground out???

Then test the battery and alternator..

My point is fix the problem you have before you start the car, i.e. the 11.5 volt battery, then worry about the 5000 rpm problem if it is still there..

Good luck..

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Re: Dale D thanks again for a great sale
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Geo,
It's western PA, yeah, that's the one. Just north of Pymatuning. A co-worker went last year, and he's getting me to go this year.


Don't miss the Corvette Cruise-In at the Quaker Steak in Sharon, Pa on April 27.

See you there???

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RE:Hoping for some intelligent C4 conversation......
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I suspect a few more just joined the ranks of the permabanned.......

A thread just dissappeared and I suspect so have the participants...


Were you by any chance referring to the "Who's driving this bus" thread? I just tried to PM one of the posters and I received a message saying the member either wasn't receiving PMs by choice or was no longer allowed to receive them...



Yep, that is the thread and I think CorvetteKid was the one who started it...

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[quote="bogus"]... I have been on permaban for the last 2 months (with the exception of about 1 hour so I could get my PMs back), so I have lost total track of trends over there.
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I suspect a few more just joined the ranks of the permabanned.......

A thread just dissappeared and I suspect so have the participants...

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Re: Who Has The Same ID As You Did At That Other Forum?
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I'll own up to it ...


Same everywhere...

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I personally would use the LT4 gasket. It has a steel fire ring. As far as I know, it will fit.


The LT4 head gasket is .043...this would give him an even higher compression ratio which he is not after...


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I'd just go with the GM stock replacements which are .049" You'll have to do the math to be sure, but I can't see you going beyond a tenth or two of gain beyond the SCR of 10.4:1. In other words, you won't go beyond 10.6:1 at the most. .


Some math that is pretty close 5700/8=712.5cc per cylinder

712.5/10.4=68.5cc if take away 2cc from head milling you end up with 66.5cc

712.5/66.5=10.7 compression ratio...

10.7 should not be a problem, just use standard gasket

BTW GM head gasket 10168457 has a compressed thickness of .050 per the GM performance parts catalog..Pretty sure this is the OEM LT1 head gasket for aluminum heads


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