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On a 200 shot, bottle pressure dead on 900 psi. I need another bottle heater for sure, 1 just isn't enough for a 15 pound bottle.
RT .068 60' 1.585 330' 4.442 1/8th 6.858 1/8 mph 101.8 1/4 mi 10.662 1/4 mph 131.08 AFR was in the mid 11's which I feel is perfect for a 200 shot. 11 degrees of timing retard, will likely cut back to 10 next time out. I just quickly rolled into it on launch. I really wish I had a solid rear. I think I could get a 1.50 or high 1.4 just by stabbing it to the floor, and likely a 1.30 if I could launch on the spray. It takes alot of resilience not to nail it to the floor but the D-36 would explode. I have new MT ET Street Radials but didn't install them yet, these runs were all with the bald Nitto 555R's at 18 psi. Only made 1 motor pass and I launched it way to easy. It was only a 12.33, and was on a 1.75 60'. Planned on running another motor pass and launching hard after I was done spraying for the day but I got to bsing and never did. Weighed the car, my raceweight, with me in it, is 3520. I am tickled to death with the car. The setup definitely likes the spray! Hey Central Coaster, can you enter me in on the drag times stickey in the drag racing section? |
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| Matatk | Re: New Best at Beaver Springs Dragway, and No Breakdowns!!! | ||
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Wow those numbers are impressive. Baby that d36 or else you might be looking for a new one
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I am envious ! Somebody actually out having a blast on the track !
Congrats on the new best !! You are starting to bring up the mph ! I think if you ever solve that Dana 36 rear end problem and go solid. (Do not go Dana 44).... I think you'll be easily reeling in low 10's with a Nitrous launch. You're no where near your 60 ft potential as you know. |
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| dan0617 | Re: New Best at Beaver Springs Dragway, and No Breakdowns!!! | ||
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Yes, I do know. And btw, thanks for your advice this winter when I was putting the combo together. You and PeteK helped me more than you know. Even with this tight converter I feel I could get a high 1.4 on a good hard n/a launch. Can only imagine what I'd get with a nitrous launch! The car doesn't break loose at all, not even when hitting the 200 shot all at once about 1/2 way through 1st gear. It'll be quite a while before I can afford a solid rear but that will be my next major mod for sure.
I was very happy with a 131 mph. I do wish I could have afforded a retro roller kit for my 2pc rear block and went with a roller cam. I believe I'm handing over a couple mph on the flat tappet. No biggie though, I'm very happy with 131 and I think I can go up another 25 on the nitrous and shed a little weight and get a 133 or 134. I'm sure the heavy stock wheels with all that rotational weight and wide front tires don't help the mph any either. Hey PeteK, I told Beaver Bob you said hello. We talked for about 10 minutes. He was showing me his supercharged Mercury Marauder. Cool car. |
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| BeachBum | Re: New Best at Beaver Springs Dragway, and No Breakdowns!!! | ||
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131 mph is getting it done..... thats enough mph for a 10.2-10.4 with an appropriate 60 ft. Look forward to you slowly bringing it down.
As a side note, I do think your Dana 36 is a little tougher than you might know if you keep it going straight, I don't know how far you can take it for sure, but the rears are okay until you start getting angles, then the spiders seem to detonate like little bombs when that happens. I shattered my original 3.07 D36 into literally 1000 pieces, but that was after 500 1/4 mile passes..... I had gotten a bit sideways and then hooked up and it went boom. Halfshafts can twist in two at anytime though.... My Dana 44 will be for sale later this year.... but its probably not right for you considering your power level. |
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I was thinking of a D-44 but I'm not sure I could launch on the spray with it. I am sure if I launched hard today on motor I could have had a 1.4X 60'. It was a fairly easy roll into it that gave me the 1.55 and it dead hooked. I was thinking it would blow the tires off when I hit the switch in 1st gear since I don't have a progressive controller but it stayed dead hooked. I was considering launching it hard but I was afraid of needing a truck and trailer to get home. Launching on spray, if it stays hooked, would give me an amazing 60'. This thing is a torque moster.
If it keeps straight, how much of a 60' time do you think the D-36 with 3.07's would take? And how much would a D-44 with 3.45's take? I originally wanted to go up to 3.73's but if I do I'm going to run out of rpm and need to shift to OD before the end of the track and I don't want to do that. I only rev to about 6300. What gears are in your D-44? |
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Dan, I honestly can't say on the Dana 36.... kind of like rolling the dice, some stay togethers, others do not. I will only say I had at least 500 passes on mine, probably much more without a single hint of a problem.... until one day, I hit it at the lights, went a little fishtail on me, then it hooked up while at an angle 10 or 15 ft out and exploded. I had done that many times before, without a problem.... guess my luck ran out. But, that was with my original 350, car was mostly a mid to low 12 second car back then.... best 60 ft back then was in the low 1.6's. So its not proven at anywhere close to your power level.... but, I think you might survive a few hard hits if you keep it straight..... but don't hold me to that either. :tongue: When I put my 383 in, I then upgraded to Dana 44 at the same time, which has survived without any casualties with the exception of a few of those needle bearings rubbing out.... they never stranded me, but they do wear out. It has seen at least 500 1.5x 60 fts.... and even a couple of high 1.4's with the 383. At about half through those 500 passes, I upgraded the 3.07's to 3.45's (No et gain)..... and its the way it sits now. I had it professionally set-up by Unitrax in SoCal..... they have a good reputation and I assume is at least in part why it has lasted. But, I do not trust it with the new motor.... I'll be hitting low 1.4's and probably even 1.3's with it once I get it dialed in...... I don't think they last long with those 60's.... but you can bet I'll be finding out before too long. If it survives, I am selling it and going solid.... I know it'll erupt sooner or later and I'll be running the Summit series next year and I do not want to be constantly worrying about it blowing up during elimination rounds. |
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Yes, from your experience it sounds like the D-36 is a little more durable than most give credit for, and I have found out the same thus far, but I know I'm on borrowed time. I was going to launch harder and hit the spray sooner and try for a 10.50 but I was so happy with the progress and no part failure that I decided to put the top down, crank up the stereo, and leave the track and head for some ice cream with my son.
I need a 2nd bottle heater, then I'm going to pay a couple small things off and save up in case of breakage, and use that money (if not needed for breakage) for a solid rear. I think I'll once again take your advice and plan on skipping the D-44 step. Unless I get one for a steal or my D-36 explodes before I can afford a D-44. What scares me with them is the spindles. I can get steel 1/2 shafts but the spindles are the same as the D-36 and I hear of alot of them snapping. I do believe mid 3's will be the gear ratio for me. It will help my cruise rpms some and likely make my tiny bit of remaining cam surge disappear. Also, since I lock my converter at 95 mph at WOT, it should, in theory, help my et some as it will keep me closer to my peak power at the big end of the track. With the converter unlocked (when not spraying) I don't expect any gain. I have to lock the converter in 3rd when spraying or it blows through the converter. I'm finding it is very hard to find places to gain any speed at this level. Timing or fueling tweaks that used to gain .2 now gain .02. At least I know there is alot to gain in gearing and launching once I can get a solid rear in there. |
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The more I think about it, I'm betting a Nitrous Controller would go a long way to prolonging your rear and improving your et's at the same time.... a friend of mine use to utlize his controller for spin control... which was really just taking the initial shock away. He would delay the initial hit for .2 seconds, then would have the 2nd shot came in .4 seconds later.... it worked for him. I don't think you want to wait too long to get it in like some do, once you get past the initial tire hit and you're hooked up and in motion, bring it in as quick as you can for best et.
With your gearing, assuming limited converter slippage, you should be coming through the traps now at around 5400 rpm with your 3.07's..... 3.45's would only boost that around 200-250 rpm and 3.73's a total of approxmiately 500-600 rpm. I always thought your 2800 rpm converter was too tight, and it is in my opinion if you were racing naturally aspirated, but its probably a pretty good match with a 200 shot.....should act more like a 3500-3800 rpm converter on the bottle...... do you know what the first rpm you see when you get hooked up is ? |
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The lowest rpm I see for the whole run is 5200, found that out by datalogging on a 175 shot. Likely it is 5300 or so now on the bigger shot.
Don't have to worry about converter slippage when I cross the stripe, I have my converter locking up at 95 mph at WOT. If I don't the converter slips too much and it revvs too high when in 3rd gear. 1st and 2nd are fine but I need to lock it at the bottom of 3rd. On my 130 mph pass I saw 5200 rpms at the stripe. Didn't look at it on the 131 mph pass but I'm sure it was the same. 3.45 gears, on the calculator I have, show me at 5900 when I cross the stripe at 131 mph. That gives me a little room to grow, 6300 rpms show 139 mph with the 3.45's and that would be good. If I calculate it with 3.73's, 6300 rpms shows 129 mph. I've already exceeded that, let alone have any room to grow. Also, I have a poor man's progressive controller....I don't purge. lol. I roll into the throttle on the launch, then hit the spray about 1/2 way through 1st gear. It takes about .5 sec (just guessing at the time) for it to come on strong due to not purging. I also think the converter helps eat some of the shock from the nitrous hit. Next time out I might try rolling it down faster and getting into the spray as soon as my foot is to the floor but I am really worried that I'll need a trailer. I have said all along that a D-36 shouldn't be pushed past a 1.6 60'. Now I'm to a 1.55 and wondering how much I can push it if I don't shock it at all.  Power is addicting (like beer), quick launches are even more addicting (like liquor), nitrous is just impossible not to get addicted to (like a sexy woman with liquor and beer). |
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Damn man, looks like I'm gonna need every bit of 2 bills to bust your ass!
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Yeah Josh, and I melted the ground straps on the plugs during that run. I'm going 3 steps colder on the plugs, 2 more degrees of retard, another 25 hp more on the shot, another bottle heater to get from 900 psi up to 1050 psi, and I'm going to launch it a little harder. With all that you will need a 3 bill shot to keep up!!!
You know me, I'm going to be the first D-36 running in the 9's. Thanks man. Can't wait to hear how your setup runs after dial in with the AFR's and some spray. |
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Sounds like 5200 rpm is your flash rpm.... typically the converter is rated below the flash. (For example, my old 3000 rpm rated converter would flash up to almost 4000 rpm) How tall is your tire ? I saw a nitrous controller on ebay a while ago for just a couple of hundred.... sounded like a good deal. If I ever decide to use Nitrous, I'll grab one somewhere. later |
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Shit man, if I need 3 bills for you I got problems, lol.
Just ribbin' ya a bit Dan ;) A company called FJO makes a really nice nitrous controller for about $250. It will do a progressive ramp of the power to help keep the tires stuck and the D36 alive. Jonescap has one in his car, and after messing with it, I think it's the best controller out there for the money. I think the D36 will live as long as you don't smack it right from the line, just roll down on the throttle over the first tenth of a second or so and I think you'll be alright. I don't really know, but I'm pretty sure it'll live longer that way. Good luck with it man, I should be up that way in a couple months and we can line em' up. You ever make it to MIR or any of the other tracks in the MD area? Recent developments will put me up there much more often, so I'll probably hit those tracks from time to time. If not, I'm still planning on heading to Detroit some time this year, I should be able to catch you on that trip. Just so everyone on here knows, the bet is that the loser has to sign the timeslip, "Josh/Dan, the chump who got whacked at the track." |
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| dan0617 | Re: New Best at Beaver Springs Dragway, and No Breakdowns!!! | ||
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I'll take that bet. You better bring a pen though, I want it written in ink on my timeslip so it shows up when I scan it in and post it up for everyone!!
I don't know if any other tracks other than Beaver Springs will let me run at all. They haven's said anything but I only run on test and tune days. I am a 'vert so I am to have a cage at 13.99 or quicker. Rippin of 10.66 then putting the top down and cranking up the stereo and driving away kind of opens some eyes. As long as the tech is forgiving I'd love to meet you somewhere. |
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Hell yeah man, I got my pen; I'll even let you borrow it, lol.
If you can make it over here to NC sometime with the car, there's several tracks here that will let you click off mid 10's with no cage and the top down if you are so inclined. Regardless, I'll let you know when I head that way. I'll be at MIR this coming weekend for the Friday night race there. I'm not running, but I'll be there if you want to get some beers or something. |
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MIR, is that Michigan?? I'd have to travel 8 to 10 hours for a beer, it better be a good beer!
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i will have time to read this thread later tonight, but what was your mph on the motor? and how much mph did u gain at the last 1/8?
so time for the 250-300 shot? lol. with a 1.58 60, u better thank the dana "gods" that it held together. |
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MIR is Maryland International Raceway.
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Well, you guys can talk all you want about the signatures but for now the 'lil 383 cubed street port headed convertible owns the slip you 2 need to sign, and will then haul me to the local pub to drink the Mich Amber Bock that you are going to buy me!!
All kidding aside, it is loads of fun being the sleeper at the track. My car is in my avatar and looks exactly like that when I race it. Sure does raise some eyebrows when the ET comes up in the 10's. |
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Intsead of using 2 heaters you might want to check out a company call ARC out of Daytona Fla.
http://archeat.com/mm5/merchant.mvc? They make a heater for 15lb NOS bottles. Using 1 large heater would most likely draw less current than 2 smaller ones. They also make a pressure switch that turns the heater on and off to provide a more constant pressure. I am not associated with ARC but I am inpressed with thier products. If you call them ask for Carl he is the owner. |
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WOW! They do have some nice stuff. Those bottle brackets with the heater in would be really nice. Can't cough up the cabbage right now but maybe I'll hold off on the 2nd heater for now till I can buy one of those. My nitrous kit gave me all the nitrous I'm ready for right now at 900 psi and 1 heater so maybe I'll just hold off till I can get one of those setups. Thanks for the link!!
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Keep talkin' vert boy. I got your number!
Lol, see you soon... Bring your pen! I think a pink Sharpie marker should be the weapon of choice for this. I can't think of a less manly way of singing the slip. |
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This is really fun getting a rouse out of you.
Since my car is an auto that still shifts automatically and the launch is simply roll the pedal down then hit the switch, I think I'll put the top down, crank the stereo up and let the sub boom, and let my 10 year old boy drive it down the track so you will have to sign his slip with your pink Sharpie!!! |
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Lol, not bad Dan. I'm just ribbin' you a bit, not upset at all. I've got a grin on my face as I type this right now.
Looking forward to seeing you in the rear view as I cross the stripe! I drink Yuengling mostly, but miller lite will work in a pinch. I look forward to the scanned slip with the signature and the round stain from the bottom of a beer bottle on it, lol. I really hope you aren't taking this too seriously. I'm serious about meeting and seeing who can best who, but I don't want you to think I'm all bent out of shape over it or anything. Just some friendly competition. |
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Dan.
Josh talks a good game, but his fist is about the same size as an 11 year old girl. Josh has been ribbing me for years, but it's acceptable because it's him. So when and where are you guys meeting? I would love to attend, but I am slightly busy at home. Keep us updated. Hard to beat a stall converter Josh! |
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Upset....NEVER! This is fun. Gives me the inspiration to get my damn car fixed once again. While you are spinning tires and clutching and shifting gears and watching oil pressures and tachometers and shift lights I'll be eating a candy bar and watching you get smaller in my mirror. Wow, I can afford to lose, you drink cheap beer. You will be buying me a Corona if it's a hot day, or a Guinness if it's a cold one. |
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No meeting place set up yet. We are all busy right now and not ready to race. Well, I kind of am, but not safely. Lets get our cars 100% ready and set something up. ....and Josh, when we are all ready, I will travel to MIR to meet you. I just hope they let me run, need to do a test and tune day for best chance at that. |
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They won't let you run at MIR regardless of the day. You'll get one pass, they'll tell you not to go that fast again, then you'll get booted. It's one of the strictest tracks I've ever ran at.
Work will have me in the Baltimore area a ton over the next year or so. A trip to PA isn't out of the question, how are the tracks there as far as tech is concerned? Can you run there without issues? I rib Rick because he's a dip shit. It doesn't have anything to do with knowing him, my fist size, or anything. The guy is a jackass. Plain and simple. Occasionally, I'll get tired of his shenanigans and bust him a bit. Dan seems cool, and unlike dip shit actually mods his car. I got no problems with the guy. I'm still stuck out of town for work, I won't be back until Monday. The car should be up and running shortly after I get back, assuming I don't have to travel anymore for the next few weeks. |
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I have only been to Beaver Springs, it's about 1.5 hours from me but I enjoy the drive. The other track is Keystone, about an hour from me, but I've been told that tech is fairly strict.
At Beaver Springs, they are pretty cool about everything. If you go for their bracket racing then you must prettymuch meet all the rules and regulations. On test and tune days they just look under your hood for major safety issues, make sure you have seatbelts and a helmet, and tell you to have a good day. The tech guy congradulated me on my 10.66 run for running so fast on a stock appearing car. He wanted me to stay for the stoplight drags that they do a couple times a year, but I had to leave for my stepdaughter's birthday party. I guess they are pretty lax on tech for that too because they figure if they let you run then you will race on the track but if they boot you then you will just race on the street and that is more unsafe. It is a really cool laid back setting there on test and tune days. Only downside is alot of people say the traction isn't all that great but my car can prettymuch hook right up on anything other than ice and grass. www.beaversprings.com is their website As far as taking this too seriously Josh, don't worry about that. If you put a 300 shot to it I might be signing your slip since I am not going to go any bigger than a 250. Your gonna have to hook it hard and early and not explode the rear though. Good luck with that. Rick, maybe we can get you in on this beer buying and timeslip signing wager. Todd is in and he is in Texas. I'll be mailing him my timeslip to sign, I'll just have him mail it directly to you to sign, then you can mail it back to me. Just make sure you don't sign over Josh's signature, I need that to show up when I scan it in!! |
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I'd love to be running in the 10's NA but there are several reasons I didn't go that direction.
1) Money. I couldn't afford a turbo or supercharger system and I got tired of being spanked by all my friends that have supercharged Cobras and Turbo Mustang GT's. Threw a nitrous kit on it last year and ran right with them on my 175 shot, stock bottom end and '113 reworked heads and HSR intake. 2) Money. Rebuilt this winter (engine and trans) but I could not afford a big cube shortblock. Would love to have more cubes than 383, but I had to go with a 383. I could not even afford a roller cam this winter, I went with a flat tappet that has now been installed in 3 different blocks and has broken in 3 different sets of lifters. Good cam, it's a Comp. On the new combo I've now run an et .4 faster than any of my mustang friends on a 200 shot (rated at the wheels, I think). 3) Streetability. I was thinking (if I could have afforded the roller cam swap this winter) of going with a huge solid roller and a higher stall converter and scrapping the nitrous. But my car is 99% street driven, my wife and I cruise around all the time in it. Didn't want to lose that. Would need big cubes to eat up the big cam. Read #2. |
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I was kind of forced to go with a big cube motor due to the type of racing I am doing..... in the Pro ET class, everybody keeps getting faster and faster every year.... thus an 11 second car is a hunted car, and its an advantage to be the chaser in bracket racing. But, you really have to be naturally aspirated for consistency.... in bracket racing, it is rare you will find anybody with forced induction or Nitrous due to consistency issues. A few guys will run a small shot they'll use if they spun to make up et and then fender race.
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Go with a Zex kit. I was told they were good up to a 150 shot. Mine was good up to a 175 (.82 Zex jet), until I replaced the -3an line and fittings from the NMU to the nozzle with a -4an line, then drilled out the nitrous side of the nozzle a little. Now I'm running close to a 225 shot (.125 jet) and the solenoid in the NMU is still flowing it all. The Zex kit already has a -4an line from bottle to NMU.
Zex is very easy to install, and it hooks into your TPS so you don't need a separate throttle switch to tell it when you are at WOT. All solenoids are in 1 box. It also regulates the fuel to coincide with the bottle pressure, so if you are down to 850 bottle pressure you can still use it, but you will get maybe a 100 shot out of 125 jets. With other kits you are rich or lean if the bottle pressure is low or high. I've had my bottle pressure to almost 1200 and the AFR stayed consistent. I've sprayed it at 800 bottle pressure and it was a hair richer but not much. Let me know if you need any nitrous advice, I think I'm done melting things down and would like to use my expensive education to maybe keep someone else from doing the same. |
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Thanks and yeah I'll pick your brain when the time comes.... Probably will not be until later this year or next year.... have too much on my plate already. Hopefully I can get a few things done in the garage this weekend.... we'll see. |
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