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Finally I have a chance to work on the zo6. Quick question regarding throttle body cleaning. I took off the air inlet hose to the throttle body and its filthy, dad has sea foam in an aerosol can. Do I spray the throttle body without the engine running or do I replace inlet hose and worm nozzle tube from sea foam can and spray away with engine running.? I think I can remove the whole throttle body and spray it down completely. Does this have throttle by wire? I have zero help today, dads doing a recovery dive.
Update 80% of the tar is removed, what I thought was tar was black spray paint on the rocker panels I don't know where he picked that up from. The hood I wet sanded with 2,000 grit, lightly sanded rockers and feather the missing paint with an air brush. Guys it looks really good. I'll take pics. My engine covers are dull, is there a special paint that I need to respray them? Thanks Erin |
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Posted on: 2010/8/29 0:06
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1Fast04Vert | Re: Quick Question | ||
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This is from one of their Sites:
Using Sea Foam Spray to Clean a Sealed Intake System Use Sea Foam Spray to clean carbon deposits from the intake systems, intake valves, and combustion chambers of your engine. Use Sea Foam Spray to clean all these areas with the cleaning tube inserted into the sealed air intake system to spray Sea Foam into the engine from in front of the throttle plate. See side panel for illustration. Warm up engine and turn off all accessories. Shut engine off. DO NOT use in enclosed area, make sure exhaust is well ventilated DO NOT use a scan tool to increase RPM via the air by-pass valve DO NOT spray Sea Foam into the mass airflow Sensor Locate the engine throttle body and remove air intake boot. Install the Sea Foam cleaning tube by inserting the short end of the hook guide into the throttle body, positioning the tube directly in front of the throttle plate. Ideal placement of hook guide is at top center of throttle body housing (12 oclock.) Place end of cleaning tube within ¼ of throttle plate by adjusting cleaning tube in or out of hook guide. Replace air intake boot to hold cleaning tube assembly in place. With the vehicle in park or neutral and parking brake engaged start engine and increase idle speed 500 to 1000 RPM above factory idle specification. Increasing engine RPM is important for the following reasons: The Sea Foam cleaner must be evenly distributed The Sea Foam cleaner must fully atomize The Sea Foam cleaner must pass through the throttle body, not the air by-pass Find a method to hold engine RPM steady as this application takes approximately 5 minutes After ½ can of Sea Foam has been used, approximately 2-3 minutes, stop spray, return engine to normal idle speed and shut off engine. Remove cleaning tube from throttle body and reattach air inlet boot to throttle body and tighten clamp. Let vehicle sit about 5 minutes then restart in a well ventilated area, as exhaust may be extreme for a short time. Road test, driving aggressively, to remove any remaining carbon. |
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Posted on: 2010/8/29 2:09
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zoe6 | Re: Quick Question | ||
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Thank you Andy! I was going to their website but I got sidetrack doing something else on the engine. I have the engine cover off and checking things out. Thanks again Erin
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Posted on: 2010/8/29 2:15
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No problem. For the fuel rail covers I have seen a lot of really crappy jobs that might have started out good. Poor prep is the usual problem and of course engine heat just makes any problems worse. The ones sold by some of the parts houses are dull with no shine and just don;t look good. I have also seen a lot of very nicely painted covers.
For my son's C5 we went with powdercoated covers and then an emblem kit for the letters. [IMG]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/andyminnich/fuel%20rail%20covers/100_1294.jpg[/IMG] Glad you are getting the chance to 'play' with Zoe. |
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Posted on: 2010/8/29 2:29
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zoe6 | Re: Quick Question | ||
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Andy I used acetone to clean rail covers and degreased everything. Your sons looks great how did you get the high gloss finish several coats? When did your son do this? Looks nice.
Powder coating is activated by heat right! Sooo this one app. |
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Posted on: 2010/8/29 2:37
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There is a guy known as Mikethepowdercoater nearby that has done a lot of work for Corvette, Ferrari, Porsche and 350Z/370Z owners. We had him powdercoat the covers and the brake calibers, then I added the emblems. My son is in Iraq right now, it was one of many things on his list for me to accomplish while he is downrange. |
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Posted on: 2010/8/29 2:51
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zoe6 | Re: Quick Question | ||
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Thanks for the info Andy. I appreciate your son's valour and service to our country. I hope he is in Kuwat now! Your a great Dad Andy!
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Matatk | Re: Quick Question | ||
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Erin, how hard does it look to remove that throttle body? I prefer to take them off on the vehicle's I'm working on, that way all the crap you clean off doesn't drop into the intake.
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Posted on: 2010/8/29 11:27
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BillH | Re: Quick Question | ||
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I'll take a guess on the gloss, they may have been powder coated red and the coated again with clear powder coat, Andy would know. I've seen clear p/c over other colors, it does bring out the gloss. |
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Posted on: 2010/8/29 13:31
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zoe6 | Re: Quick Question | ||
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I decided at 1:30 am to remove the throttle body. Fairly straight up procedure. I agree I hate to spray all that crud down into the cylinders, considering dad changed oil when I first got "zoe".
I bought a quart of victory red last week. I thought about spraying fuel rail cover the same color as body color, not sure how body paint will hold up to underhood environment. |
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Posted on: 2010/8/29 13:46
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BillH | Re: Quick Question | ||
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Google this: c6 z06 fuel rail covers I saw some hits on painting covers (but didn't open them), looked at some new ones $200+. I should have read them, I was thinking about the high heat with regular paint. One product I've used on engines is Duplicolor, they have a base/color coat that looks like anodized aluminum (red, blue,etc.) It will handle 500 degrees IIRC. |
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Posted on: 2010/8/29 13:53
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zoe6 | Re: Quick Question | ||
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Thank you Bill for your input. Later on today I will stop by OReilly or Advance auto to check out colors. Erin
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Posted on: 2010/8/29 14:14
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Here's the colors, etc. http://www.duplicolor.com/products/metalCast/ I've used this on aluminum covers on the racecar engines and it's held up for years. I've also used it on plastic and fiberglass helmits. It's a basecoat of silver metallic, the color coat (like a candy apple color) and a clear coat. For use on plastic, there's an adhesion prompter. |
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Posted on: 2010/8/29 14:20
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zoe6 | Re: Quick Question | ||
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Is the adhesion promoter a isocynide base? or high in titanium oxcide. Great Idea. Thank you.
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Posted on: 2010/8/29 14:25
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All the can says is contains toluene and xylene. I always use a NIOSH resperator when playing with paint.IIRC isocynide is used in the 2 part urethane car paints and shouldn't be sprayed unless you have a supplied air system mask. BTW, if you use the Duplicolor adhesion promoter on plastic, try a test application on some scrap. I've had good results with it and I've had some wrinkles show up in the top coat using it. |
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Posted on: 2010/8/29 14:45
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Thanks, Dad has all the safety and resperators to spray paint. |
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Posted on: 2010/8/29 14:54
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BillH | Re: Quick Question | ||
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Here's some Duplicolor Metalcast. The blue & silver squares are the silver base and blue topcoat, the yellow on top is the yellow topcoat over silver base.
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Posted on: 2010/8/29 15:28
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Vetron87 | Re: Quick Question | ||
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Looks like Erin removed and cleaned the throttle body throughly. Great advice guys! I'm afraid at times she is a prefectionists and fearless when it comes to learning about mechanical devices. I don't want you to think she is a tomboy! very feminine but she just likes cars and getting dirty. Wonder where she got that from. This drives her future husband nuts.
She just started it up sounds good. I think shes hyper!!!! Her kids will probably be born with a wrench in their hands. |
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Posted on: 2010/8/29 16:23
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You're a very lucky father (and future Papa) Ron.
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Posted on: 2010/8/30 4:23
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Thank You. She can get a little wordy at times.
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Posted on: 2010/8/30 12:43
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Here's the colors, etc. http://www.duplicolor.com/products/metalCast/ I've used this on aluminum covers on the racecar engines and it's held up for years. I've also used it on plastic and fiberglass helmits. It's a basecoat of silver metallic, the color coat (like a candy apple color) and a clear coat. Neat looking stuff. I'll have to try some, thanks. I hope I don't get carried away with it though. |
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Yea, it's easy to get carried away, but that's what makes it fun. Burn about a mile of masking tape and you can do things like these: http://www.corvette-guru.com/modules/ ... t_id=66249#forumpost66249 |
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Posted on: 2010/8/30 17:02
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Wow! That takes "carried away" to a whole new level! I can see a plenum and runners done with "metalCast". |
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Posted on: 2010/8/30 17:19
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