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| rklessdriver | Carnage.... | ||
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Broke on the first pass tonight.
Kinda hard to see everything that is broken, but - Driver's side half shaft is destroyed. Both inner and outer end yolks are egged out or just flat broke off. I have at least one broken U-Joint strap bolt in the drivers side stub axel. Suspension upright also has some fresh new scars to add to the few it already had.... Passanger side outer U-Joint is broken in half and wedged together so I could at least (very slowly) move the car off the race track... I got greedy and came out on the clutch too hard with way too much RPM. Car left hard and then as soon as I came completely out on the clutch - I heard the "BANG" and the car went side ways. I gathered it up and eased down the track to the return road. I'll take it apart when I get time and fix it. Local guy (on the "other site") to me parts out a bunch of C4's - so I'm going to send him a PM and see if has the parts I think I need. Looks like 2 half shafts and possibally a drivers side stub axel for now. We only have 3 more weeks of Test and Tune here so unless a miracle happens it looks like I'm done racing until next year... There is just too much to do to the new house before we move in. Shit breaks at the worst possible time and when things go bad they really go bad..... Speaking of which - I dropped my Smith and Wesson Model 36 when I got home and broke the friggen end of the hammer off it. Well the darn hammer was always hanging up on my jacket pocket and I was thinking of making it DAO. Now I got an excuse to break out the dremel. I'll get the video of the car up when I get a min. Will |
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| bogus | Re: Carnage.... | ||
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yea... these damned C4 IRS setups do reach a limit... sorry you found it.
The most important part is that you are ok and the damage is easily fixed!!! |
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Posted on: 2010/10/7 2:28
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| rklessdriver | Re: Carnage.... | ||
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Looks worse on the camera than it seemed in the car. I heard it break, then felt it spin the tires real hard and turn left "a little" - but it looks like it really got out of shape.
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| bogus | Re: Carnage.... | ||
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oh, that sounds tragic... you can hear the break go!
Again, glad you're ok! |
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Posted on: 2010/10/7 6:10
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| CentralCoaster | Re: Carnage.... | ||
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Ouch. At least you didn't nail the wall. Imagine if it let go on the 1-2 shift.
Get that gun fixed then shoot the car. Halfshafts and ujoints are still cheaper than a diff. What clutch do you have? Do you think the torque broke it or the initial hit? The thing with stickshifts is there's usually slack in the drivetrain unless you roll on to it a little. |
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| biggrizzly | Re: Carnage.... | ||
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Sounds like an easy and inexpensive repair! Good thing it wasn't something else.
BTW -- S&W should be willing to replace that hammer FOC. I'd give them a call. You can do it yourself or take it to a gunsmith. Its pretty easy repair. |
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| rklessdriver | Re: Carnage.... | ||
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SPEC Stage 3 clutch with a Fidanza alum flywheel. Its hard to tell when which parts let go first. I never felt like anything was broken on the right side. I was slipping the clutch until the car turned sideways which is the point I was 100% locked up. I defiantly felt the passenger side break at that point. Once I got the car back to my pit box and got up under it, I was expecting the drivers side stuff to be destroyed but I was really surprised to see the outer U-Joint on the right side split in half as well. It sucks - everything was brand new under the rear end. New Brute Force U-Joints, new 3.91 gear, polished/cryo'd posi unit shimmed/tuned to an inch of it's life, cryo'd inner stub axels. I got too much $$$ invested to shoot it. The fellow over on CF cut me a real good price on 2 half shafts and I think the U-Joints have a life time guarantee so I'll try to dig up the recipt. Hopefully the outer stub axels are still OK and I can get the broken strap bolt out of the drivers side. Will |
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Posted on: 2010/10/7 14:11
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| Matatk | Re: Carnage.... | ||
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Sorry to hear that!
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Posted on: 2010/10/7 14:16
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| rklessdriver | Re: Carnage.... | ||
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Yea the hammer spur is no big deal to repair and like I said - I'm tired of it tearing up the lining of my coat pockets. I'm just pissed that I dropped the thing. First time I've ever done that. I'll just cut the rest of the hammer spur off it like Smith does on the newer Model 37's. I took it out of my pocket and went to place it on my work bench and my hand just gave out (I have some really bad nerve damage in that hand) at the wrong time and it slipped off the edge of the work bench on to the concrete floor. Thank god for the hammer block. Things could have been much worse if it had discharged. Will |
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| CentralCoaster | Re: Carnage.... | ||
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I don't think there's a chance in hell of it discharging if you drop it. Urban legend?
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| BrianCunningham | Re: Carnage.... | ||
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Sorry to hear
I know where to get 32 spline stubaxles & steel halfshafts if your interested |
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| bogus | Re: Carnage.... | ||
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Urban legend based on a touch of fact... really old school hand guns would go off if the hammer was hit hard, but modern revolvers get a sheild that keeps the hammer from striking in the resting position. |
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Posted on: 2010/10/7 16:48
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| bogus | Re: Carnage.... | ||
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I would look for a different brand of u-joint. The Brut Force wasn't all that popular with the racers. Apparently, the shoulder design is thinner and causes the joint to fail. I don't know if they resolved this... |
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| rklessdriver | Re: Carnage.... | ||
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I just ordered the solid Dana/Spicer 1350 u-joint kit and strap/bolt kit for the half shafts from Denny's Driveshaft. Will |
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Posted on: 2010/10/7 18:17
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| Mekanic | Re: Carnage.... | ||
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Tricky decision about dragging a C4... upgrade the half shafts and stubs and break the ring, or leave it alone and save the ring
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Posted on: 2010/10/8 1:53
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| Josh | Re: Carnage.... | ||
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I have a bunch of extra parts, and I'm pretty close. If you need something in a hurry, let me know and we can meet in the middle somewhere.
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Posted on: 2010/10/8 3:29
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| Josh | Re: Carnage.... | ||
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Oh ya, I'm back in NC now. My car stuff is still in Baltimore until the 30th of the month though. Let me know if you need anything and we'll work out a way to get it to you ASAP.
Don't sweat the season man, get it sqaured away and cruise down here to Raleigh. We'll hook up, drink a beer, and hit a TnT night down here. They run all year round here, November - February is when it cools down enough to really lay down some good numbers. I'm hoping to close on my first house November 5th or so, so I know what you're going through with the home buying process. What a pain in the ass. Never in my life did I dream I would be spending six figures and feel so powerless. Buy a 6 figure car and the dealership is all but giving you a handjob, buy a 6 figure house and you've got to suck some dick to even get a phone call returned. What a tremendous bunch of bullshit, I can't believe some people wonder why the mortgage/banking system has all but failed. I'm so pissed off about it, there is SO much wrong with it, that it literally makes bile rise in the back of my throat if I think about it for more than a few minutes. Fuck, what a shitty way to end a post. My bad. Good luck with your car, and again, let me know if you need anything. |
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| rklessdriver | Re: Carnage.... | ||
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Thanks Josh.
I picked up the new halfshafts a few mins ago. U Joints and strap kits will ship sometime next week and then 2 days delivery from NY. The fellow I bought the half shafts from also has an outer stub axel but he didn't want to seperate it from the entire suspension upright. Price was still good ($50) but I'm going to try and get that bolt out of mine first. I'll let you know howit shakes out. Your right about the home thing. Now that I actually signed the darn papers on the thing it's getting even worse. I have to stop by every day to check over the dry wall and paint work that the contractors are doing now. Then there is bidding contractors to do new flooring... Who knew carpet and laminate flooring could cost over 10 grand?? Good luck with yours. Will |
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| rklessdriver | Re: Carnage.... | ||
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Well I managed to get everything apart today.
Sorry but I didn't take a bunch of pics because there just wasn't time and others have already documented how to pull half shafts and stub axels better than I could. [IMG]http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f303/rklessdriver/Corvette/DSC00027.jpg[/IMG] Like I thought both half shafts are beyond fixing. Too bad... Some how I think I'm going to need spares. The drivers side outer stub axle is fixable - but not by me with hand tools. The bolt is broken at an angle and there's no way for me to hand drill it straight... I'm going to contact the guy that sold me the new halfshafts and buy that entire suspension upright assy he offered me for $50.00 and then this Thanksgiving when I go to see my folks I'm going to take my orginal stub axel and put on the Bridgeport and mill the bolt out of it so I can keep it for a spare. Everything on the right side is back together with a new halfshaft (with new Spicer U Joints) and all new Spicer U Joint straps and bolts. Once I get the new stub axle it'll take me maybe 45mins to put the other side back together. I'll probally accomplish this Friday. Will |
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| pr0zac | Re: Carnage.... | ||
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wow. i know this is going to happen like a week after i put my car on the road.
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