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shamdave	Re: Fiat headlights	#51
Guru Newb 14 Posts Member since: 2010/9/30 0:28	I got mine today and they look a little bigger than i thought has any one actually done this i need some guidance.
	Posted on: 2010/9/30 0:32

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bogus	Re: Fiat headlights	#52
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20860 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	you and me both... I WILL do this, but only after I have seen how 383tpi does it! Guidance is called "waiting it out!"
	Posted on: 2010/9/30 1:02
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RobertT	Re: Fiat headlights	#53
Guru 62 Posts Member since: 2010/6/20 16:45	I ordered a set myself . I have talked to a fiberglass man and he said the custom work would be easy for him. I am going to make a template the exact size of the lights and place them on the hood to find the best location . trace the outline then check the undeside for depth and obstructions. Use a high speed cutting tool like a smatt router or dremel type tool , probably use a diamond type rotary blade for a clean cut . I wouldn't use a blade type tool , they tend to splinter fiberglass and cut at a slower speed . After the openings are cut I will have the fiberglass man make a nice finished edge and fill in any portions that may need it . then paint the hood . then set the lights inplace mark the mounting points and epoxy threaded studs to the underside and bolt in place. I have done work on boats and this work takes time but is not hard . The electrical part , that is easy for me I'm an electrician . I would love to see all of your finished products . I will be posting mine when I get the project done .
	Posted on: 2010/9/30 1:19

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383tpimachine	Re: Fiat headlights	#54
Master Guru Corpus Christi 976 Posts Member since: 2009/7/25 19:07	Good to see others following the trend. The past week my area got 16+ inches in a span of 3 days. Living in the country means waiting for the ground to dry out. I will start cutting on my hood this weekend and next week. I am also working on opening the lights. I think 5-10min @ 150* should get the glue melted enough to pull apart.
	Posted on: 2010/9/30 4:27
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flyboy	Re: Fiat headlights	#55
Elite Guru Westmont, Il. 2632 Posts Member since: 2008/9/28 12:47	What are the approximate dimensions of the unit? Length X Width, thanks. They look quite a bit larger than the stock openings.
	Posted on: 2010/9/30 13:51

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bogus	Re: Fiat headlights	#56
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20860 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	I am curious about alignment, too. Are the mounting surface angles on the FIAT simular to the mounting surface angle on the hood of the C4?
	Posted on: 2010/9/30 17:47
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RobertT	Re: Fiat headlights	#57
Guru 62 Posts Member since: 2010/6/20 16:45	Quote: bogus wrote: I am curious about alignment, too. Are the mounting surface angles on the FIAT simular to the mounting surface angle on the hood of the C4? Looking at pictures of the Fiat 20VT the hood angles seem to be close , the fiat looks like it sits higher . the light bulb system must be adjustable enough to compensate for the difference if any in the hood angles .
	Posted on: 2010/9/30 22:03

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blr33439	Re: Fiat headlights	#58
Guru Newb 9 Posts Member since: 2010/10/2 0:23	This is the first time I have found this forum although I have seen pictures of these lights before. Looks like the design they should have had from the factory. The fiberglass work necessary seems a little prohibitive though.
	Posted on: 2010/10/2 0:33

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bogus	Re: Fiat headlights	#59
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20860 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	Talk to me about your light system.
	Posted on: 2010/10/2 2:11
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TommyT-Bone	Re: Fiat headlights	#60
Chair-man of the bored Homestead USA 33807 Posts Member since: 2007/12/10 0:00
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383tpimachine	Re: Fiat headlights	#61
Master Guru Corpus Christi 976 Posts Member since: 2009/7/25 19:07	cut a template out of cardboard tonight. Will take the camera out when I start drawing and cutting. Im going to mount both headlights before starting on the ss style vent. That looks to be the biggest issue at the moment with my fabrication skills but it will be a learning process. The lights are approximately 16 inches long by 10inches at the farthest. I will get a better measure tomorrow as well.
	Posted on: 2010/10/9 3:11
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383tpimachine	Re: Fiat headlights	#62
Master Guru Corpus Christi 976 Posts Member since: 2009/7/25 19:07	Ok so really started today. This is a 87 hood I picked up out of Austin for $300. It was prettier but by no means nice. This is with 45 mins with a chisel. [IMG]http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh294/383tpimachine/107_0627-1.jpg[/IMG] This is my template that I will start cutting with tonight. [IMG]http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh294/383tpimachine/107_0628.jpg[/IMG] As for dimensions here are some better but Im limited on measuring devices. from corner to level with the farthest corner was 14in [IMG]http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh294/383tpimachine/107_0625.jpg[/IMG] for the length I just measured the side. Came out to 20in at the tab [IMG]http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh294/383tpimachine/107_0623.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh294/383tpimachine/107_0624.jpg[/IMG] Height was around 5-6 inches that will be below the hood line [IMG]http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh294/383tpimachine/107_0626.jpg[/IMG]
	Posted on: 2010/10/9 21:07
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bogus	Re: Fiat headlights	#63
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20860 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	Quote: blr33439 wrote: This is the first time I have found this forum although I have seen pictures of these lights before. Looks like the design they should have had from the factory. The fiberglass work necessary seems a little prohibitive though. projection light technology a) didn't exist in 1980 (when the C4 was being designed) and if it did, b) would apply, meaning, illegal in the USA.
	Posted on: 2010/10/9 23:02
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383tpimachine	Re: Fiat headlights	#64
Master Guru Corpus Christi 976 Posts Member since: 2009/7/25 19:07	Started cutting. [IMG]http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh294/383tpimachine/107_0630.jpg[/IMG] Have to go pretty deep so a longer jigsaw blade would help. [IMG]http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh294/383tpimachine/107_0631.jpg[/IMG] Rough cut ready to prep. [IMG]http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh294/383tpimachine/107_0632.jpg[/IMG] Can see some bracing inside of the brace. [IMG]http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh294/383tpimachine/107_0634.jpg[/IMG] Can see here its nearly a perfect fit. [IMG]http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh294/383tpimachine/107_0633.jpg[/IMG] Will try to get the notches made to sit the light into place.
	Posted on: 2010/10/11 1:58
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Matatk	Re: Fiat headlights	#65
Webmaster SW Chicago Burbs 22810 Posts Member since: 2008/1/7 0:00	Good start to the project! How much finish fiberglassing do you think you'll need? Matthew
	Posted on: 2010/10/11 2:33
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383tpimachine	Re: Fiat headlights	#66
Master Guru Corpus Christi 976 Posts Member since: 2009/7/25 19:07	In front of the light will be about 2 inches but a I plan to cut the piece above and just glass it in and fill whatever else. I can get everything close and my body guy will make it perfect. Sidenote I ordered my fiberglass SS scoop today off ebay. Hoping to finish up the light holes by the end of october early november. Then i will cut the middle of the hood out. I have also decided I want the 91-96 front bumper so Ill be adding that on at the same time. Calling Zip tomorrow to ask how much I am gonna dish out. Money is tight but I think I can pull it off by Janaury-March. Also adding in a push button start when my switch comes in.
	Posted on: 2010/10/11 2:48
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Trae1976	Re: Fiat headlights	#67
2012 Memorial Day Car Show Winner! Johnson City, TN 832 Posts Member since: 2008/4/17 11:30	Glad to see this progressing!
	Posted on: 2010/10/11 12:09

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383tpimachine	Re: Fiat headlights	#68
Master Guru Corpus Christi 976 Posts Member since: 2009/7/25 19:07	Part B main piece showed up today. Hard to see how BIG this really it. ALOT of it will be cut and scrapped but I will graph it in as well. [IMG]http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh294/383tpimachine/107_0641.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh294/383tpimachine/107_0643.jpg[/IMG]
	Posted on: 2010/10/14 23:31
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383tpimachine	Re: Fiat headlights	#69
Master Guru Corpus Christi 976 Posts Member since: 2009/7/25 19:07	First hole is almost done. Bonding the old top piece in place now. Then the finishing touches. [IMG]http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh294/383tpimachine/107_0644.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh294/383tpimachine/107_0645.jpg[/IMG]
	Posted on: 2010/10/15 2:13
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ggrassmid	Re: Fiat headlights	#70
Guru Newb Edgewood, KY 18 Posts Member since: 2010/3/25 13:26	Do the lights have to sit that far up on the hood that you had to cut 3+ inches away from nose of car?
	Posted on: 2010/10/21 16:47

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383tpimachine	Re: Fiat headlights	#71
Master Guru Corpus Christi 976 Posts Member since: 2009/7/25 19:07	I did it that way to have more material up front. Plus I like it more. I can be dont much close to the bumper. The back will need to be raised to make the light sit correctly. This weekend is the texas mile so there likely wont be much progress. Might cut the hood friday for the scoop tho.
	Posted on: 2010/10/21 18:56
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383tpimachine	Re: Fiat headlights	#72
Master Guru Corpus Christi 976 Posts Member since: 2009/7/25 19:07	UPDATE: Have some posts molded on and lights stay up with simple nuts. [IMG]http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh294/383tpimachine/107_0652.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh294/383tpimachine/107_0658.jpg[/IMG] You can see where the angles are not right with the hood so I chose to lift the back. [IMG]http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh294/383tpimachine/107_0653.jpg[/IMG] SS scoop fabbing up nicely. [IMG]http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh294/383tpimachine/107_0651.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh294/383tpimachine/107_0660.jpg[/IMG] And a sneak peak at my home made truss bar to get rid of my body flex. [IMG]http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh294/383tpimachine/107_0659.jpg[/IMG]
	Posted on: 2010/11/4 2:14
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Matatk	Re: Fiat headlights	#73
Webmaster SW Chicago Burbs 22810 Posts Member since: 2008/1/7 0:00	Geeze that looks like a lot of work with those headlights! I'd be concerned about cracking around them with all the cutting, bending, and reworking. What are your thoughts on that?
	Posted on: 2010/11/4 2:59
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383tpimachine	Re: Fiat headlights	#74
Master Guru Corpus Christi 976 Posts Member since: 2009/7/25 19:07	Quote: Matatk wrote: Geeze that looks like a lot of work with those headlights! I'd be concerned about cracking around them with all the cutting, bending, and reworking. What are your thoughts on that? extra bracing is bing added and will have many layers of fiberglass added. All bending was done very slowly with a heat gun. The hood has VERY little fiberglass in it to begin with. Its mostly resin it seems.
	Posted on: 2010/11/4 3:03
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STEBO	Re: Fiat headlights	#75
Guru Newb 2 Posts Member since: 2010/10/26 13:01	I just won my ebay bid for a set for 50 pounds which is $81.00 US. Just gettin started on my project 1984 C4 Will be posting pix soon!
	Posted on: 2010/11/8 14:41

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STEBO	Re: Fiat headlights	#76
Guru Newb 2 Posts Member since: 2010/10/26 13:01	Hey when do you expect that you will be done with the lights? Can't wait til you're done and Yes I AM BITIN'
	Posted on: 2010/11/8 14:56

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383tpimachine	Re: Fiat headlights	#77
Master Guru Corpus Christi 976 Posts Member since: 2009/7/25 19:07	Im hoping to have it painted and on the car by late dec to jan. Im stripping all the paint right now so I can finish with the fiberglass
	Posted on: 2010/11/8 15:09
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blr33439	Re: Fiat headlights	#78
Guru Newb 9 Posts Member since: 2010/10/2 0:23	How's the weather in Corpus?
	Posted on: 2010/11/19 20:43

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383tpimachine	Re: Fiat headlights	#79
Master Guru Corpus Christi 976 Posts Member since: 2009/7/25 19:07	Getting colder. Still workin on it. Stripped paint so i can start building supports
	Posted on: 2010/11/19 21:36
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blr33439	Re: Fiat headlights	#80
Guru Newb 9 Posts Member since: 2010/10/2 0:23	It's already too cold in VA. I need to get space heaters so I can start fiberglass work in my garage. I can't wait for summer again. Good luck on the rest of the project.
	Posted on: 2010/11/20 11:54

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shamdave	Re: Fiat headlights	#81
Guru Newb 14 Posts Member since: 2010/9/30 0:28	Hey what size are your head light templets
	Posted on: 2010/12/18 1:06

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bogus	Re: Fiat headlights	#82
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20860 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	I just hope you are using resin and filler that is compatible with SMC... Otherwise, the project looks absolutely bad ass. I can't wait to see the end result.
	Posted on: 2010/12/18 1:13
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383tpimachine	Re: Fiat headlights	#83
Master Guru Corpus Christi 976 Posts Member since: 2009/7/25 19:07	Quote: shamdave wrote: Hey what size are your head light templets I just traced the light and did a rough cut with a jig. Then fit the light in and trimmed to fit. The material will be heavily bonded together. Shouldnt be a problem. It is somewhat on the back burner due to the new el camino but still have plans for it to get done.
	Posted on: 2010/12/18 6:35
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383tpimachine	Re: Fiat headlights	#84
Master Guru Corpus Christi 976 Posts Member since: 2009/7/25 19:07	Well the scoop is nearly done. Then its time to focus on the headlights again. [IMG]http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh294/383tpimachine/SSPX0705.jpg[/IMG]
	Posted on: 2011/1/3 22:30
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bogus	Re: Fiat headlights	#85
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20860 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	How do you like your thread getting top billing in the email blast last week? That looks like one helluva project! I can't wait to see the end result.
	Posted on: 2011/1/4 1:15
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383tpimachine	Re: Fiat headlights	#86
Master Guru Corpus Christi 976 Posts Member since: 2009/7/25 19:07	Quote: bogus wrote: How do you like your thread getting top billing in the email blast last week? That looks like one helluva project! I can't wait to see the end result. Top billing? Not quite sure what your referring to
	Posted on: 2011/1/4 3:36
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bogus	Re: Fiat headlights	#87
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20860 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	oooh.... someone didn't signup to get emails from the site. I did a huge email blast last week, and this thread was one of the lures I sent.
	Posted on: 2011/1/4 3:46
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383tpimachine	Re: Fiat headlights	#88
Master Guru Corpus Christi 976 Posts Member since: 2009/7/25 19:07	Ahhh maybe I should read my emails lol. Good deal. My income tax will be set aside for painting the hood and front bumper so just need to get it all done. I NEED it done.
	Posted on: 2011/1/4 4:05
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jonszr1	Re: Fiat headlights	#89
Senior Guru Lone Pine, CA 453 Posts Member since: 2010/10/25 22:42	dont mean to hijack but what type of wheels are on the car in the top picture?????
	Posted on: 2011/1/8 1:30
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bogus	Re: Fiat headlights	#90
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20860 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	the avatar for shamdave? I can't tell.
	Posted on: 2011/1/8 2:01
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cheetah	Re: Fiat headlights	#91
Guru Newb 1 Posts Member since: 2006/9/18 0:00	How much does each Fiat assembly weigh? Thanks
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383tpimachine	Re: Fiat headlights	#92
Master Guru Corpus Christi 976 Posts Member since: 2009/7/25 19:07	ALOT less than the factory setup. Whole package including boxes and packaging was weighed in at 7 lbs IIRC
	Posted on: 2011/1/11 5:15
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shamdave	Re: Fiat headlights	#93
Guru Newb 14 Posts Member since: 2010/9/30 0:28	The wheels on my car are MO MO's I painted them black but now i have changed them to Silver (trying out different colors before i commit to powder coat) I have my Head light holes 80% done and hopefully will have it in paint in a few weeks. It was allot of work and i think i went a different route than most guys I mounted mine a little lower using the old headlight holes ad the bottom corner. I used a cutting wheel and a jig saw to make the holes larger. I then used Duct tape and cardboard as a Temp frame and used fiberglass to create the new shape. A crap load of sanding and re shaping, more sanding,More fiberglass, more sanding and so on I am now working on a way to mount them I have a few ideas I will post Pics soon with a detailed step by step.
	Posted on: 2011/1/17 1:24

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shamdave	Re: Fiat headlights	#94
Guru Newb 14 Posts Member since: 2010/9/30 0:28	Some Pics of the progress Attach file: IMG_4289.JPG (430.14 KB) IMG_4296.JPG (383.39 KB)
	Posted on: 2011/1/17 1:43

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Raidmagic	Re: Fiat headlights	#95
Guru Newb Florida 168 Posts Member since: 2007/12/29 0:00	Looking good guys.
	Posted on: 2011/1/17 12:25

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383tpimachine	Re: Fiat headlights	#96
Master Guru Corpus Christi 976 Posts Member since: 2009/7/25 19:07	Quote: shamdave wrote: The wheels on my car are MO MO's I painted them black but now i have changed them to Silver (trying out different colors before i commit to powder coat) I have my Head light holes 80% done and hopefully will have it in paint in a few weeks. It was allot of work and i think i went a different route than most guys I mounted mine a little lower using the old headlight holes ad the bottom corner. I used a cutting wheel and a jig saw to make the holes larger. I then used Duct tape and cardboard as a Temp frame and used fiberglass to create the new shape. A crap load of sanding and re shaping, more sanding,More fiberglass, more sanding and so on I am now working on a way to mount them I have a few ideas I will post Pics soon with a detailed step by step. Which edge are you using? The front is what I am using so I had to raise the back for a flush fit. If you use the back It looks as if the headlights will be pointing towards the ground.
	Posted on: 2011/1/17 17:59
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bogus	Re: Fiat headlights	#97
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20860 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	serious work, man... serious.
	Posted on: 2011/1/17 20:18
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shamdave	Re: Fiat headlights	#98
Guru Newb 14 Posts Member since: 2010/9/30 0:28	I am using the Lower edge and yeah they may point low I am using a manual adjust for the angle. I will post more pics soon
	Posted on: 2011/1/19 20:10

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shamdave	Re: Fiat headlights	#99
Guru Newb 14 Posts Member since: 2010/9/30 0:28	I got the hood painted today few more touch ups and it will be ready to install more pics coming soon
	Posted on: 2011/5/29 23:13

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bogus	Re: Fiat headlights	#100
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20860 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	can't wait!!!!
	Posted on: 2011/5/29 23:36
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