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383tpimachine Smart Struts worth it?
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I know Cunningham is running these but are they worth it? My front ball joint are shot and need to be replaced. Should I bite the bullet and upgrade or just get some stock replacements?
Posted on: 2010/8/25 21:09
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BillH Re: Smart Struts worth it?
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Are you going to put the car on the track? A lot?
There's certainly nothing wrong with the upgrade but for the street or drags, there's not much benifit.
And are you going to put the bucks into the rear suspension?

If you're just street driving and/or canyon carving, the ball joints will be fine. But, it's your $$$$ and always your decision.
Posted on: 2010/8/25 21:40
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383tpimachine Re: Smart Struts worth it?
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I have the 3 piece banski kit already for the rear.

I am competetive in autox and hope to start road racing this time next year.

So Ill take that as a Yes its worth it. thanks bill

Next is better fiberglass springs and new shocks.
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yes they are
Posted on: 2010/8/26 1:17
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I opted for the Banski rod end setup out of sheer disgust with the stock bushing setup and how much worse it became with poly bushings. As for the track, can't hurt. I think I only have one track day on them, and experience played a bigger factor in improving lap times. They do ride better on the road though, one of the few mods that can improve it on the track and street.

You need quality rod ends and a way to keep them clean and free of corrosion. I'll probably try the rubber boots and maybe a little grease even.
Posted on: 2010/8/26 3:02
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I have banski rod ends on my Daily driver and I know that they help on the street.. They are a huge improvent over POLYbushings

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I opted for the Banski rod end setup out of sheer disgust with the stock bushing setup and how much worse it became with poly bushings. As for the track, can't hurt. I think I only have one track day on them, and experience played a bigger factor in improving lap times. They do ride better on the road though, one of the few mods that can improve it on the track and street.

You need quality rod ends and a way to keep them clean and free of corrosion. I'll probably try the rubber boots and maybe a little grease even.


Banski makes them for the front end? Didnt know this. Will have to check them out.
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Sorry I thought I saw rears on the link. Banski is working on a front kit, but I really don't have issue with poly up there except for the sway bar links. I would just put new balljoints on.
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Sorry I thought I saw rears on the link. Banski is working on a front kit, but I really don't have issue with poly up there except for the sway bar links. I would just put new balljoints on.


Same here ....link showed rear components....thought read Bill's comment's on rear and posted.

Tom has mentioned he's getting close on the front end kit. If its out before I need my next set of tires, I'll probably buy the front kit and install it when I need tires (so I can knock out the alignment in one swoop vice alignment for new tires and then for suspension modification).

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Sorry I thought I saw rears on the link. Banski is working on a front kit, but I really don't have issue with poly up there except for the sway bar links.

I thought that poly wouldn't make a big difference in the front either but I was quite surprised. After installing the prototype Delrin lined bushings (both upper and lower control arms) and the adjustable UCA spindle I was amazed at how much better it felt, even on the lift.

Like in the rear, with the poly bushings installed (and no spring in place) when the spindle was lifted to full bump it wouldn't fall back down under its own wieght due to the binding. I installed the prototypes up front and the only force you had to exert to lift the spindle was the wieght of the components. Let it go and it falls down freely under its own wieght.


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Tom has mentioned he's getting close on the front end kit.

We are close. I've been very happy with the performance so far although it's been hard to quantify as reliability issues with my car's power steering have made it hard to get officially timed laps because I'm in the garage. I'm hoping to get out to Watkins Glen in Sept, back to NHMS in Oct and down to NJMP in Nov to complete the reliability testing and then tear it all down for inspection. I'm hoping to have news of a release by The Holidays.
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383tpimachine Re: Smart Struts worth it?
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I like banski. I will go with yours if they are out. Mine arent to bad but showing wear. Once i start feeling the effects I will look for whoever has one out.
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I did the tech article for Corvette Enthusiast Mag regarding the Banski kit.

It is seriously cool!!!
Posted on: 2010/8/29 8:21
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Sorry I thought I saw rears on the link. Banski is working on a front kit, but I really don't have issue with poly up there except for the sway bar links.

I thought that poly wouldn't make a big difference in the front either but I was quite surprised. After installing the prototype Delrin lined bushings (both upper and lower control arms) and the adjustable UCA spindle I was amazed at how much better it felt, even on the lift.

Like in the rear, with the poly bushings installed (and no spring in place) when the spindle was lifted to full bump it wouldn't fall back down under its own wieght due to the binding. I installed the prototypes up front and the only force you had to exert to lift the spindle was the wieght of the components. Let it go and it falls down freely under its own wieght.


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Tom has mentioned he's getting close on the front end kit.

We are close. I've been very happy with the performance so far although it's been hard to quantify as reliability issues with my car's power steering have made it hard to get officially timed laps because I'm in the garage. I'm hoping to get out to Watkins Glen in Sept, back to NHMS in Oct and down to NJMP in Nov to complete the reliability testing and then tear it all down for inspection. I'm hoping to have news of a release by The Holidays.

Tom,
If the front kit makes as much of a difference in ride quality as your trailing arms did on the rear...I'm in if the pricing is right....
Are you getting close on pricing?




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Are you getting close on pricing?

Not yet. I plan on tweaking the design a bit to ensure further robustness and then need to go through a design review to see if we can simplify manufacturing. After that it's out to quote.

I hope to have pricing established in November. Come to think of it, that's really not that far away is it?
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I hope to have pricing established in November. Come to think of it, that's really not that far away is it?


Update on the front bushings?

Any fall sales on the rear gear as well?
Posted on: 2010/10/14 17:30
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