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TommyT-Bone | Paint rehab | ||
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My wifes' white 87 911 is showing signs of dulling paint on the rear quarters. Being old school, I remember stripping the wax, compounding then waxing to bring back the luster. Fast forward 40 years ....... What's the best way to retore faded paint in todays world? It doesn't need a repaint, just a little freshning up. Here's a little pic of the ol' lady kickin my ass.
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Posted on: 2011/7/12 20:01
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TommyT-Bone | Re: Paint rehab | ||
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Hey BillH ! This would look nice on your wall.
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Posted on: 2011/7/12 20:07
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Matatk | Re: Paint rehab | ||
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Clay bar and fresh wax/buff did wonders for my paint.
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Posted on: 2011/7/12 21:27
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BillH | Re: Paint rehab | ||
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Maybe I'll ship you that poster for your garage wall, if you ever................................... |
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Posted on: 2011/7/12 23:14
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BillH | Re: Paint rehab | ||
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yea, Claybar first.
Then, get some Maguiar's Cleaner Wax (available every where). Low speed on the buffer. It has just a small amount of cleaner material in it and is a one step thing since it has the wax in it. I always have some on the shelf in the shop. |
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Posted on: 2011/7/12 23:17
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TommyT-Bone | Re: Paint rehab | ||
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I'm still doing that old school too. I hand polish and buff. Maybe it's about time I mechanize. Buffer suggestions anyone? I don't care for swirl marks.
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Posted on: 2011/7/12 23:43
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Vetron87 | Re: Paint rehab | ||
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On badly oxidized paint I use 2000 grit water paper, Porter Cable Random Action Variable speed orbital buffer, a good polish i.e Griot or surf city polish, then Carnuba wax. I like Meguiers body cleaner, has a nice grit that breaks down quickly. Great looking 911. |
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Posted on: 2011/7/12 23:55
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BillH | Re: Paint rehab | ||
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How much do you wanta pay? I bought the HF variable speed just for the hell of it for $29 (non-orbital). It works (but you get what you pay for). The ones that Summit had @ $79 were decent. A good one is PorterCable @ $160. Then U gotta decide if you want a buffer or an orbital. Orbitals = less swirl marks. |
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Posted on: 2011/7/12 23:59
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TommyT-Bone | Re: Paint rehab | ||
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Probably between $75 and a buck and a quarter. I like the best in the middle range. I could be swayed higher if it's really worth it.
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Posted on: 2011/7/13 0:33
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TommyT-Bone | Re: Paint rehab | ||
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Yes ....... It is. |
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Posted on: 2011/7/13 0:35
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pianoguy | Re: Paint rehab | ||
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I have the Porter-Cable 7424 buffer, works great. I got mine from autogeek.net. You can buy a kit with several different pads. I like their Pinnacle XMT Pad Cleaner and Pad Conditioner, too. I spritz the conditioner on the pad before putting any polish on it, and the cleaner works really well to wash the pads. I use Menzerna polishes - Super-Intensive Polish (medium cut), Final Finish (fine cut) and Finishing Glaze. For wax I use Pinnacle Souveran (spendy - I lucked out and found some on fleabay for half price) or Rejex.
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Posted on: 2011/7/13 1:44
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teebee | Re: Paint rehab | ||
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I'd agree with the PC 7424. I use Adams Polishes, Clay bar, Swirl and Haze remover with Orange pad. Then Fine Machine polish on a White pad, then Super Machine wax on a black pad. After that I use either Rejex or Adams Americana Paste Wax.
With the PC (random orbit) it's nearly impossible to damage the paint. With straight orbital buffers, you've got to be really careful not to burn the paint, specifically the edges and body lines. My technique is very similar to Brad's. |
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Posted on: 2011/7/13 2:13
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teebee | Re: Paint rehab | ||
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Tommy, you got a high res version of that picture? I got a large format printer and can print you a poster.
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Posted on: 2011/7/13 2:16
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teebee | Re: Paint rehab | ||
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I guess that could go for you other guys too. Sharp, high res photos work best.
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Posted on: 2011/7/13 2:20
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TommyT-Bone | Re: Paint rehab | ||
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Thanks Tom but I really have no space to put it. Thanks for the offer though. Should I need a favor in the future I'll be sure to ask. Maybe one day like Bill says ..... I'll have my garage.
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Posted on: 2011/7/13 3:13
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TommyT-Bone | Re: Paint rehab | ||
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Good info so far. Thanks
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Posted on: 2011/7/13 3:16
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TommyT-Bone | Re: Paint rehab | ||
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Posted on: 2011/7/13 3:24
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JeffK | Re: Paint rehab | ||
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I did the hood on my Vette with 1500 then 2000 wet followed by Meguiars Ultimate Compound with my old skool buffer then I used Meguiars NXT wax.
Wet sanding it will take off any acid rain or dead paint. |
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Posted on: 2011/7/13 11:12
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TommyT-Bone | Re: Paint rehab | ||
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Wet sanding is a litle futher than I need to go but for some I can see doing this.
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Posted on: 2011/7/13 11:47
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pianoguy | Re: Paint rehab | ||
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The world is your polishing oyster, lots of choices. I don't remember which kit I got, except that it had a variety of pads, backing plate, cleaner and conditioner. Plenty of good options out there for polishes, etc. Some folks wash the car with Dawn to remove the old wax - I use Prep-All. Anyway, with your stable of vehicles, a good buffer would be a handy tool. |
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Posted on: 2011/7/13 13:00
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BillH | Re: Paint rehab | ||
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Wet sanding with 2000 should really be called wet wiping, there's not any "sanding" involved. Should be done with a foam block. But if it's further than you need to go, you'll find out after doing the cleaning with an orbital. |
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Posted on: 2011/7/13 13:02
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95Vert | Re: Paint rehab | ||
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Surprising on a vette site that no one has mentioned the infamous Zaino (or did I miss it)...I do like his process in terms of using Dawn dishwashing liquid first to strip everything off the paint first then using the clay bar after that. Dawn again then use to product of choice to restore the finish.
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Posted on: 2011/7/21 20:42
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biggrizzly | Re: Paint rehab | ||
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Zaino... Say no to Insaino $$$$
I spent a ton of money before on Zaino. We had a rep come and show us all the tricks and I dumped at least $200 on his products. I agree that it did a nice job, but I can get the same results for less money with other products. My favorites right now are Adam's. I love everything I have tried of there's or watched the demos of. I can't wait until Carlisle to get some more. |
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Posted on: 2011/7/21 21:32
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95Vert | Re: Paint rehab | ||
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Funny you say that. I haven't tried Adams products but hear nothing but good things.
Zaino got too expensive, BUT, it certainly did bring the paint back (red) on my 88 RX7! That car had soaked up CA sunshine since new and Zaino did an amazing job. Its still the only thing I use on that car. For the Vette, I'm going with Meguiars. Easy to obtain and a whole lot cheaper...though I might switch to Adams. |
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Posted on: 2011/7/22 13:24
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BillH | Re: Paint rehab | ||
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I use a boatload of Maguiars but most of it is their "pro" stuff. I have some of the newer NTX was but it doesn't last all that long. Carnauba is still the best choice (IMO). Summit Racing has Adams on the shelf so I can just walk in and get it. |
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Posted on: 2011/7/22 13:43
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