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Posted on: 2012/1/18 15:23
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bogus | Re: Their Guy vs Our Guy | ||
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This is interesting... But the way Putin is marketed in Russia is very different and very intentional.
The Russian culture appreciates a manly-man. All assertive ans strong and such. When Clinton was dipping his wick in Monica, the Russians feeling was that of impressed; this was a real leader we can associate with. |
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Posted on: 2012/1/18 16:52
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SpectatorRacing | Re: Their Guy vs Our Guy | ||
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You don't think we would prefer a "manly man"? Certainly not my #1 requirement, but geez...
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Posted on: 2012/1/18 17:00
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Matatk | Re: Their Guy vs Our Guy | ||
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We historically always liked "manly men" up until shortly after WWII. Then it turned into the age of JFK, etc. Look how many presidents were war heroes, etc. |
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Posted on: 2012/1/18 17:08
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bogus | Re: Their Guy vs Our Guy | ||
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not as many as you think...
I acknowledge Bush I's service, but don't call him a "hero'. Same with Carter (USN). I have better luck calling JFK a war hero. Eisenhower... Teddy Roosevelt... then you go way back to US Grant. Now, prior to Grant, we had many ... Taylor, Tyler, Jackson... Washington and Jefferson. By the mid-19th century, we realized that the nation needed intellectual leadership. Not some ex GI. |
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Posted on: 2012/1/18 17:41
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BillH | Re: Their Guy vs Our Guy | ||
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Well, we could use a leader now.
Unfortunately, I don't see any floating around D.C. |
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Posted on: 2012/1/18 17:53
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Russians are barbarians......we are the new millenium types nowdays....Reagan was a man's man.....
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Posted on: 2012/1/18 18:06
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Posted on: 2012/1/18 18:23
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Matatk | Re: Their Guy vs Our Guy | ||
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I don't know if you misread what I wrote? After the age of JFK is when the trend changed. That was largely in part due to television and people were picking candidates (ie, JFK) based on appearance rather than content. |
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Posted on: 2012/1/18 18:56
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Matatk | Re: Their Guy vs Our Guy | ||
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This is an internet list, not sure how accurate it is:
Thirty of our presidents served in the military. George Washington - Commander in Chief of Continental Army during the American Revolution. James Monroe - served in American Revolution Andrew Jackson - American Revolution, War of 1812, First Seminole War William Henry Harrison - Indian wars in the NW territory, War of 1812 John Tyler - War of 1812 Zachary Taylor - War of 1812, Black Hawk, Second Seminole, and Mexican wars Franklin Pierce - Mexican War James Buchanan - War of 1812 Abraham Lincoln - Black Hawk War Andrew Johnson - Civil War Ulysses Grant - Mexican War, Civil War Rutherford Hayes - Civil War James Garfield - Civil War Chester Arthur - Civil War Benjamin Harrison - Civil War William McKinley - Civil War Theodore Roosevelt - Spanish-American War Harry Truman - WWI Dwight Eisenhower - WWII General John Kennedy - WWII Lyndon Johnson - WWII Richard Nixon - WWII Gerald Ford - WWII George Bush - WWII These Presidents all saw action in Wartime. The following served without conflict. James Madison James Polk Millard Fillmore Jimmy Carter Ronald Reagan - kept out of combat due to bad eyesight George W. Bush The remainder of the presidents were not in the military. John Adams Thomas Jefferson John Quincy Adams Martin Van Buren Grover Cleveland William Taft Woodrow Wilson Warren Harding Calvin Coolidge Herbert Hoover Franklin Roosevelt Bill Clinton Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_US ... ary_careers#ixzz1jq05kbXL |
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Posted on: 2012/1/18 18:57
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Matatk | Re: Their Guy vs Our Guy | ||
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PS....BHO never served in the military.
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Posted on: 2012/1/18 19:00
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Posted on: 2012/1/18 19:09
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Durango_Boy | Re: Their Guy vs Our Guy | ||
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I hate getting into political conversations...mostly because you can't make everyone happy and there really isn't a middle ground for safety with the exception of just keeping one's mouth frig'n shut...
...but, I don't see a need for a certain mold the pres needs to fit in. Simply, I don't think they really have the power or final decision in anything. He might sit in the nig chair but there are a lot of people pushing and making his decisions for him. |
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Posted on: 2012/1/18 19:42
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