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| Matatk | Good deal on a block... | ||
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I found this browsing on Craigslist. Sounds like a good deal for the 383 I've been dreaming of building. For some reason, I don't think the wife would be too happy......hmmmmm.
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| dan0617 | Re: Good deal on a block... | ||
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Sounds like a steal as long as the block is good.
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Posted on: 2008/12/9 1:23
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| brut | Re: Good deal on a block... | ||
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I am assuming it is out of a Camaro or something....surely he is not selling Aluminum heads too for just $99
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| bogus | Re: Good deal on a block... | ||
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sounds like a deal to me!
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Posted on: 2008/12/9 4:30
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| Notorious | Re: Good deal on a block... | ||
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Too good of a deal to not at least check out. You could probably recoup your investment and more with parts you won't need.
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Posted on: 2008/12/9 4:35
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| Matatk | Re: Good deal on a block... | ||
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I'm assuming it's a camaro l98 since it's a 2 bolt main. I might email him and find out. Matthew |
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Posted on: 2008/12/9 11:32
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| anesthes | Re: Good deal on a block... | ||
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Know of any vette L98's that don't have a 2 bolt main? I don't. -- Joe |
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| CentralCoaster | Re: Good deal on a block... | ||
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Who started that rumor?
Has a vette ever had a 4-bolt small block? When was the last one? (And no, 6-bolt LSx don't count.) |
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| Lcvette | Re: Good deal on a block... | ||
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all LTx blocks in the corvette are 4 bolt main blocks! F and B bodies got 2 bolt blocks.
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Posted on: 2008/12/9 18:09
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| anesthes | Re: Good deal on a block... | ||
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Good to know. The guy is buying an L98 from 1989 though. -- Joe |
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| Matatk | Re: Good deal on a block... | ||
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Hey Joe, you know a lot more about the camaros than I do. Correct my statements if you don't mind.
I found this website a while back that indicates some of the differences between the vette/camaro intakes, etc. http://www.hotrodlane.cc/PDFFILES/TPIStory.pdf If I bought a block, I'd be putting vette stuff on the top end anyway, so I don't think I'd have to worry much. Is it correct that the blocks themselves are the same or are there any bolt differences or sensor taps, etc? Any issues you see? This is all in theory, of course. It would be the first step towards my budget 383 build up. I have a tendency to research too much and wait too long before I do stuff, though, so I don't even know if the block listed above is still available. I'm just trying to get info first. Thanks, Matthew |
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| anesthes | Re: Good deal on a block... | ||
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The block's are the same, the accessories are not, nor is the oil pan or a few of the studs holding the windage tray in place. If you stripped the block down to a short block you can put all the vette specific items on it. Even the timing cover is a little different on the fbody, but it fits fine behind a vette water pump. The motor mounts are different, backwards. -- Joe |
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Posted on: 2008/12/10 13:07
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| mseven | Re: Good deal on a block... | ||
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not a 383, but I think this is a good deal:
http://detroit.craigslist.org/pts/939599676.html |
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Posted on: 2008/12/10 13:52
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| Danspeed1 | Re: Good deal on a block... | ||
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First off, 2 bolt, 4 bolt, I can't remember the last thread about caps coming off or even cranks snapping. For a budget 383 build its not going to make a difference. My disassembled 454 is a 2 bolt and it supposedly will put out about 550-600 when its back together.
------------------------ I think its a really good project. I would just love to see a real "old skool" budget 383 build from start to finish. It can be done with experience and creativity. DG |
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| anesthes | Re: Good deal on a block... | ||
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True.. A 2 bolt is a better block anyway because you can run aftermarket caps and redrill for a 4 bolt. with angled outer bolts. A factory 4 bolt is straight. I've seen a lot of broken cranks + rods. Only 1 cracked cap, and I'm 100% certain it was the fault of the builder. -- Joe |
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| dan0617 | Re: Good deal on a block... | ||
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What usually causes broken cranks and rods? I'm guessing high rpms is worse than high power? What caused the broken ones you have seen?
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Posted on: 2008/12/13 21:50
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| Matatk | Re: Good deal on a block... | ||
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I'd love to do one and document it. This won't be it right now. If I ever came across a killer deal on a vette block that fit, I'd have to consider it. Matthew |
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Posted on: 2008/12/14 0:31
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| cuisinartvette | Re: Good deal on a block... | ||
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You could do a dirt cheapie one with stuff from Ohio crankshaft or something similar. Guys did it with stock reground cranks and stock rods with good bolts for years.
Thing is you can get the scat stuff which is better for about the same price. Had planned on doing something like that years ago when the 89 was still around. It wasnt going to be much more than a mild 406 cruiser so using cheap stuff would have worked fine. rpm usually is what kills motors, not power so much. |
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| Danspeed1 | Re: Good deal on a block... | ||
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The Crank Shop.... one of two or three (?) in the country is in Montgomery, NY... 10 mins from me.
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| dan0617 | Re: Good deal on a block... | ||
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Although I bought my short block used (about 3000 miles on it) it is an old school budget 383 which is probably why I got it so cheap. It is a 1980-1985 2pc rear seal 350 block with passenger side dip stick. They bored the block .040 over, decked .005 off of it to clean it up, and did the machine work for a stroker. They went to a junk yard and took the crank and rods out of a 400. The crank was machined to fit into the 350 block. The rods were shot peened and something else (magnafluxed? not sure). They used ARP bolts. It has speed pro forged pistons and moly rings. Not sure of the details on the rings and bearings but was told they are good quality. I didn't build it myself, but everything looks in great shape. Crosshatching still in the cylinder walls, very slight scoring up and down (can barely be felt and only at the bottom 1/2 of the bores) from the piston skirts. For what I paid, I'll take my chances with this old school 383.
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That 400 block would be pretty sweet! |
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| anesthes | Re: Good deal on a block... | ||
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Probably a combination of over spinning the motor and lack of lubrication. It seems to always be the #2 rod that goes. Broken cranks are from guys thinking they can launch with 28" slicks with a 500+ hp motor on a cast crank. I've seen a few crank snouts broken too from large blowers. -- Joe |
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| dan0617 | Re: Good deal on a block... | ||
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I guess my 1/2 shafts and D36 centersection will be my crank's insurance policy then, should I decide to run slics and launch on the spray. (which I'm not going to do) |
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| dan0617 | Re: Good deal on a block... | ||
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I asked why they just didn't take the whole 400 and recondition that block. He said it was shot, didn't say what was wrong with it. |
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That's why I'm going with a forged one. |
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| pr0zac | Re: Good deal on a block... | ||
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if i remember correctly the L98 is a 638 casting isn't it? that is a popular roller block i have come across. they come in both 2 and 4 bolt. from what i have gathered 4 bolt were used in 4 wheel drive trucks.
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