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Curtis1974 Tired of the cold!
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This crap is getting old! Two Corvettes in the garage and the weather sucks big time. -10 right now with the wind chill. Woke up this morning to more white stuff on the ground. The wife made the only tracks leaving the neighborhood. Of course I got blamed for not shoveling off the walk path for her. Oh well.

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DaleD Re: Tired of the cold!
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Global Warming.

Interestingly, the global warming crowd says this doesn't prove anything, and global warming is going to kill us all, unless we agree to huge energy taxes through cap and trade.

I'm sick of cold weather, and sick of liars.
Posted on: 2010/1/8 19:01
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The axis of the Earth's rotation tends, like the axis of a gyroscope, to maintain its orientation with respect to inertial space. External forces acting on Earth from the Sun, Moon, and planets cause deviations from the fixed orientation. The velocity of the rotation of Earth has had various effects over time, including the Earth's shape (an oblate spheroid), climate, ocean depth and currents, and tectonic forces.

In my honest opinion, the Earth's axis has more to do with global temperatures then fossil fuels being burned ("Global Warming"). It's just a bunch of bureaucratic a-holes trying to scare people into the end of the world!
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DaleD Re: Tired of the cold!
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In my honest opinion, the Earth's axis has more to do with global temperatures then fossil fuels being burned ("Global Warming"). It's just a bunch of bureaucratic a-holes trying to scare people into the end of the world!


I've never heard it approached from that angle, but I do know that the earth precesses around it's axis of rotation, much like a wobbling top. I don't know how much effect that would have on climate, but I am aware that sunspot activity has a lot to do with how much energy the sun generates. Right now, the sun is in a sunspot minimum that has lasted longer than expected.
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In my honest opinion, the Earth's axis has more to do with global temperatures then fossil fuels being burned ("Global Warming"). It's just a bunch of bureaucratic a-holes trying to scare people into the end of the world!


I've never heard it approached from that angle, but I do know that the earth precesses around it's axis of rotation, much like a wobbling top. I don't know how much effect that would have on climate, but I am aware that sunspot activity has a lot to do with how much energy the sun generates. Right now, the sun is in a sunspot minimum that has lasted longer than expected.


Dale, the next thing those people will try to tell us is that the sunspot activities are affected our fossil fuel usage.
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pianoguy Re: Tired of the cold!
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All I know is we are getting an old-fashioned ass-kicking winter here like when I was a kid. Snowbanks are hard to see over at intersections, and the roads are greasy as all hell. The reflective markers I put up on the edge of my yard to keep the plows out are buried. Spring can't get here soon enough.
Posted on: 2010/1/8 20:08
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flyboy Re: Tired of the cold!
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Last winter went on and on. Then the cool summer. I was hoping for a mild winter. Oh well, spring is only 10 long weeks away.

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tjpreul Re: Tired of the cold!
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I cannot believe you left the PT Cruiser outside!! I like "the world is going to flood portion". Remember that water expands when frozen. I believe it is 1" of rain to 7" of snow. Take a glass of water with ice and fill it to the brim, as the ice melts the water level drops.
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BillH Re: Tired of the cold!
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Come On, the climate dorks were right in 1975, remember how we alost froze to death?

From Newsweek, April,1975

GLOBAL COOLING

There are ominous signs that the Earth’s weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production – with serious political implications for just about every nation on Earth. The drop in food output could begin quite soon, perhaps only 10 years from now. The regions destined to feel its impact are the great wheat-producing lands of Canada and the U.S.S.R. in the North, along with a number of marginally self-sufficient tropical areas – parts of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indochina and Indonesia – where the growing season is dependent upon the rains brought by the monsoon.

The evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologists are hard-pressed to keep up with it. In England, farmers have seen their growing season decline by about two weeks since 1950, with a resultant overall loss in grain production estimated at up to 100,000 tons annually. During the same time, the average temperature around the equator has risen by a fraction of a degree – a fraction that in some areas can mean drought and desolation. Last April, in the most devastating outbreak of tornadoes ever recorded, 148 twisters killed more than 300 people and caused half a billion dollars’ worth of damage in 13 U.S. states.

To scientists, these seemingly disparate incidents represent the advance signs of fundamental changes in the world’s weather. The central fact is that after three quarters of a century of extraordinarily mild conditions, the earth’s climate seems to be cooling down. Meteorologists disagree about the cause and extent of the cooling trend, as well as over its specific impact on local weather conditions. But they are almost unanimous in the view that the trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century. If the climatic change is as profound as some of the pessimists fear, the resulting famines could be catastrophic. “A major climatic change would force economic and social adjustments on a worldwide scale,” warns a recent report by the National Academy of Sciences, “because the global patterns of food production and population that have evolved are implicitly dependent on the climate of the present century.”

A survey completed last year by Dr. Murray Mitchell of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration reveals a drop of half a degree in average ground temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere between 1945 and 1968. According to George Kukla of Columbia University, satellite photos indicated a sudden, large increase in Northern Hemisphere snow cover in the winter of 1971-72. And a study released last month by two NOAA scientists notes that the amount of sunshine reaching the ground in the continental U.S. diminished by 1.3% between 1964 and 1972.

To the layman, the relatively small changes in temperature and sunshine can be highly misleading. Reid Bryson of the University of Wisconsin points out that the Earth’s average temperature during the great Ice Ages was only about seven degrees lower than during its warmest eras – and that the present decline has taken the planet about a sixth of the way toward the Ice Age average. Others regard the cooling as a reversion to the “little ice age” conditions that brought bitter winters to much of Europe and northern America between 1600 and 1900 – years when the Thames used to freeze so solidly that Londoners roasted oxen on the ice and when iceboats sailed the Hudson River almost as far south as New York City.

Just what causes the onset of major and minor ice ages remains a mystery. “Our knowledge of the mechanisms of climatic change is at least as fragmentary as our data,” concedes the National Academy of Sciences report. “Not only are the basic scientific questions largely unanswered, but in many cases we do not yet know enough to pose the key questions.”

Meteorologists think that they can forecast the short-term results of the return to the norm of the last century. They begin by noting the slight drop in overall temperature that produces large numbers of pressure centers in the upper atmosphere. These break up the smooth flow of westerly winds over temperate areas. The stagnant air produced in this way causes an increase in extremes of local weather such as droughts, floods, extended dry spells, long freezes, delayed monsoons and even local temperature increases – all of which have a direct impact on food supplies.

“The world’s food-producing system,” warns Dr. James D. McQuigg of NOAA’s Center for Climatic and Environmental Assessment, “is much more sensitive to the weather variable than it was even five years ago.” Furthermore, the growth of world population and creation of new national boundaries make it impossible for starving peoples to migrate from their devastated fields, as they did during past famines.

Climatologists are pessimistic that political leaders will take any positive action to compensate for the climatic change, or even to allay its effects. They concede that some of the more spectacular solutions proposed, such as melting the Arctic ice cap by covering it with black soot or diverting arctic rivers, might create problems far greater than those they solve. But the scientists see few signs that government leaders anywhere are even prepared to take the simple measures of stockpiling food or of introducing the variables of climatic uncertainty into economic projections of future food supplies. The longer the planners delay, the more difficult will they find it to cope with climatic change once the results become grim reality.
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Curtis1974 Re: Tired of the cold!
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I cannot believe you left the PT Cruiser outside!!


I know right! It was the PT or the C4. Tough decision, I had to think about it for almost a fraction of a second.

I got a great deal on the F-150, but I'm wishing it was 4X4 right about now.
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Others regard the cooling as a reversion to the “little ice age” conditions that brought bitter winters to much of Europe and northern America between 1600 and 1900 – years when the Thames used to freeze so solidly that Londoners roasted oxen on the ice and when iceboats sailed the Hudson River almost as far south as New York City.

I haven't been to a good ox roast on the ice in a long time. This may be the year! I'm going to call some guys up, then we gotta find a good ox somewhere. mmmmm I can almost taste it!

It's amazing that we have gone from them trying to melt the ice caps to now they are worried we are melting the ice caps. Do you think it has something to do with govt. grants and tax money?....... Naaah!
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