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| BrianCunningham | WTF need to jack the engine to pull the lower a-arms? | ||
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A friend has access to a lift
So I started rebuilding the suspension today. I got the front suspension mostly off today, but wound up putting the lower arms back on the rear bolts DO NOT come out with the stiffen bracket in place. and that's holding the engine mount. So I'll have to either wait to get the lower bushing and balljoint in when the engine is out, or cut the bolt and put it in the other way which is an option with coilovers. On the other hand the front leaf spring is out and the Penskes are on. Yes, that's right, Brian actually got parts INSTALLED! |
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Posted on: 2010/4/21 1:30
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| Jeffvette | Re: WTF need to jack the engine to pull the lower a-arms? | ||
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You just need to pull the k brackets out. It's two 15mm bolts and two 13mm bolts that hold them in, as well as the motor mount nut.
These two brackets do not support the motor, but offer extra frame support. |
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Posted on: 2010/4/21 1:34
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| BrianCunningham | Re: WTF need to jack the engine to pull the lower a-arms? | ||
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ah,
thanks big help. |
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Posted on: 2010/4/21 1:35
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| tjpreul | Re: WTF need to jack the engine to pull the lower a-arms? | ||
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I had the same issue. I had bought new bolts and used a drill into the side of the bolt to remove the head. Then I reinstalled them from the front. If you use a cut off wheel watch out for the brake lines.
http://www.corvette-guru.com/modules/ ... id=114037#forumpost114037 |
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| Matatk | Re: WTF need to jack the engine to pull the lower a-arms? | ||
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Do you have a picture off hand, Brian. I might undo this bolt and flip it around while I have the motor out.
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| Aboatguy | Re: WTF need to jack the engine to pull the lower a-arms? | ||
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I agree with Jeff....I installed poly bushings without pulling the engine or cutting anything.
Mike [IMG]http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a342/aboatguy/LoweringDa7.jpg[/IMG] |
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| BrianCunningham | Re: WTF need to jack the engine to pull the lower a-arms? | ||
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no, unfortunately I was so busy I didn't even have time to get drink of water, or take a leak for that matter. |
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| BrianCunningham | Re: WTF need to jack the engine to pull the lower a-arms? | ||
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were you able to do it with the spring in place? Mine's out so it's not longer an issue. |
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| Jeffvette | Re: WTF need to jack the engine to pull the lower a-arms? | ||
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You have to remove the tension created by the springs and shocks. and fold the A-arm down if your spring is still mounted. I just got done rebuilding my whole front end. Poly bushings, upper/lower ball joints and new tie rods. Didn't bother taking any pictures either. One of the few times I did not snap a few. |
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| CentralCoaster | Re: WTF need to jack the engine to pull the lower a-arms? | ||
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I don't remember having to remove anything to get to mine.
I may go to coilovers though just to get rid of this piece of shit spring that requires reqluing the lowering wedges every 2 years. I guess I can't really blame the spring, shoulda left it stock. |
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Posted on: 2010/4/21 6:57
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| tjpreul | Re: WTF need to jack the engine to pull the lower a-arms? | ||
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Yes, the spring was still in but had no tension on it. |
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| BrianCunningham | Re: WTF need to jack the engine to pull the lower a-arms? | ||
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yes, I got how to get the bolt out, I was just wondering if the bolt would fit past the spring when putting it in from the other side
Kevin, Does your car have the later diagonal stiffer braces? |
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| 1Fast04Vert | Re: WTF need to jack the engine to pull the lower a-arms? | ||
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Yes, it will go in with no problem and makes it easy if you ever have to take it apart again. |
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| CentralCoaster | Re: WTF need to jack the engine to pull the lower a-arms? | ||
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Mine has diagonal braces from the spring channel to the frame rails, but I don't see how those would be in the way.
The entire front end changed also, so maybe it's the front end supports you're talking about? |
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| tjpreul | Re: WTF need to jack the engine to pull the lower a-arms? | ||
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I took a few pictures of mine to show the clearance. I didn't jack up the car, so this is the biggest view I was able to take. I turned my bolt around. You can see the marks in the grease where the bolt head hit the brace when I tried to remove the bolt.
Attach file:  bracket.JPG (852.59 KB) bracket2.JPG (545.25 KB) bracket 1.JPG (845.11 KB) |
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| BrianCunningham | Re: WTF need to jack the engine to pull the lower a-arms? | |||||||
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here's some pics
Stock spring removed Notice the curvature on this spring it goes through the frame, it's best to get access to a lift in order to remove it.  Penkes are on! I'm using Hardbar Delrin pintop mounts.  I'll properly mount the canisters later I'll also double nut the pintops.  Notice that the swaybars clear the coilovers   The oval hole in the shocks t-bars gave me enough adjustment so hopefully the swaybar will not need to be relocated. I'll know after the links are on.  My friend with the lift did not have a press, and I need to pull the braces under the engine mount in order to pull the lower a-arms. more parts arrive for when I get access to a lift
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| BrianCunningham | Re: WTF need to jack the engine to pull the lower a-arms? | ||
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I got the rear spring out.
Dog bones and camber links mounted all with DRM brackets I'll post the pics as soon as I finish uploading them. on a cool person note: [QUOTE]lmtdconv92; Brian, this is Chris from the SVT list. I have a press if you want to come over and use it. send me an email and we can talk. Chris[/QUOTE] true racer Joins a forum to help a fellow autocrosser out  |
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| CentralCoaster | Re: WTF need to jack the engine to pull the lower a-arms? | ||
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I have a press, you are free to come over and use it. I won't pay the plane ticket though.
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Posted on: 2010/4/29 23:28
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| BrianCunningham | Re: WTF need to jack the engine to pull the lower a-arms? | ||
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Started on the rear suspension
Stock suspension    Removing the rear spring     double sided bolt or stud? (holds the exhaust hanger and the camber rod plates)  In go the new parts Adjustable links with rod ends and DRM brackets  I flipped this bolt around later it would have hit my 3in exhaust I'm installing later  I matched the lengths to the old parts as a starting point   Here's one of the reasons I did the swap Just a bit of friction in the stock system!!!  |
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| iCorvette | Re: WTF need to jack the engine to pull the lower a-arms? | ||
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well I finally look at my bolts from on top of the tire area and there is no "K" frame I think. all it has is the "Z51" diagonal braces, if you know what I am talking about and from the head of the bolt, which faces to the rear in my case there is approx. 2.5 inches...not like the one you have pictured here which, looks like about .5 inch. so without further exploration, do you think I have a lower control arm rear bolt removal problem? |
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| tjpreul | Re: WTF need to jack the engine to pull the lower a-arms? | ||
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It will be close. If you take the front bolt out you may be able to move the arm around to make it so the bolt clears. If you try to cut the head off of the bolt keep in mind the brake lines are right there. This is why I used a drill. Plus the issue of trying to fit a grinder in there. I did order two new bolts from the dealer to replace them. It wasn't too bad of a job. Once you have them turned around you won't have to worry about this issue. |
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