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BrianCunningham Toyota Corvette?
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Yuck!

[IMG]http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj76/Jadvad/toyotachevroletcorvettero2.jpg[/IMG]

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/11/17/he ... d-a-corvette-from-toyota/


Even worse China!

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Chinese Automakers May Buy GM and Chrysler
By Bertel Schmitt
November 18, 2008 - 22,776 views



Chinese carmakers SAIC and Dongfeng have plans to acquire GM and Chrysler, China’s 21st Century Business Herald reports today. [A National Enquirer the paper is not. It is one of China's leading business newspapers, with a daily readership over three million.] The paper cites a senior official of China’s Ministry of Industry and Information Technology– the state regulator of China’s auto industry– who dropped the hint that “the auto manufacturing giants in China, such as Shanghai Automotive Industry Corporation (SAIC) and Dongfeng Motor Corporation, have the capability and intention to buy some assets of the two crisis-plagued American automakers.” These hints are very often followed with quick action in the Middle Kingdom. The hints were dropped just a few days after the same Chinese government gave its auto makers the go-ahead to invest abroad. And why would they do that?


A take-over of a large overseas auto maker would fit perfectly into China’s plans. As reported before, China has realized that its export chances are slim without unfettered access to foreign technology. The brand cachet of Chinese cars abroad is, shall we say, challenged. The Chinese could easily export Made-in-China VWs, Toyotas, Buicks. If their joint venture partner would let them. The solution: Buy the joint venture partner. Especially, when he’s in deep trouble.

At current market valuations (GM is worth less than Mattel) the Chinese government can afford to buy GM with petty cash. Even a hundred billion $ would barely dent China’s more than $2t in currency reserves. For nobody in the world would buying GM and (while they are at it) Chrysler make more sense than for the Chinese. Overlap? What overlap? They would gain instant access to the world’s markets with accepted brands, and proven technology.

21st Century Business Herald, obviously with input from higher-up, writes that Chinese industry must change and upgrade. China wants their factories to change from low-value-added manufacturing to technically innovative and financially-sound high-value-add industries. Says the paper: “It would be much easier now for strong Chinese automakers to go global by acquiring some assets of their U.S. counterparts in times of crisis.”

Deloitte & Touche sees a trend: “Chinese automakers can start with buying out the OEM projects and Chinese ventures of some global carmakers such as GM and Chrysler.”

The Chinese appear to have bigger plans than an accounting firm can imagine. 21st Century Business Herald acts and writes as if its already a done deal, and the beginning of more to come. “In the coming two years China is likely to see a few of its large Chinese automakers and other manufacturing enterprises set a precedent for achieving globalization by acquiring global companies, just like SAIC or Dongfeng’s possible acquisition of troubled GM or Chrysler.”

Just in case you missed it, the Shanghai Automotive Industry Corporation (SAIC) is China’s largest auto manufacturer. In 1984, the company entered a joint venture with Volkswagen. A decade later, SAIC entered a joint venture with General Motors. In 2007, SAIC bought the Nanjing Automobile Corporation, which had acquired British MG Rover in 2005.

Dongfeng Motor Corporation is a public company, although 70 percent of their shares are reported to be in government hands. They also are one of China’s Big Three. The company has numerous joint venture partners, such as Nissan, Peugeot-Citroen, Honda, and Kia. Dongfeng (which means “East Wind”) was founded at the behest of Mao Zedong himself in 1968.
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The legacy of the union.
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How much will change? All the parts have been made there already, and some assembly goes on there, doesn't it?

Just a different signature on the paycheck, and a lower wage. Borders might open, and domestic plants might re-tool for chinese labor to come in on labor visas.

Like IBM/Lenovo?
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Hmmmm....a toyvette? I dunno.

The biggest problem with the Chinese produced items is they have no QC and their finished products are mostly junk. The Japanese seem to have much higher standards. I guess we'll have to see how things play out. With the stock market being shaky they could stand to pick up a substantial portion of either company for a good deal. Might stabilize things a bit if they have some money to pump into the system.

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100% on the chinese no QC problem - my buddy is an engineer and he says that when they finally deliver the right prototype(after usually sending 3 or 6 wrong ones) they stay in spec for a couple months until the machines start wearing out and they keep pumping them out and the parts get farther and farther away from the original specs.
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Corvette - TRD edition.
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100% on the chinese no QC problem - my buddy is an engineer and he says that when they finally deliver the right prototype(after usually sending 3 or 6 wrong ones) they stay in spec for a couple months until the machines start wearing out and they keep pumping them out and the parts get farther and farther away from the original specs.


My dad is a journeyman toolmaker and machine builder for a UAW shop (or was until recently). He was telling me a true story about a Chinese engine plant. They bought all the tooling, set up the machines, everything was installed properly, blah blah. All engines produced lasted 10 hours before needing a rebuild. Reason why? Once they bored out the block, engine components, etc, they never even cleaned them off before assembling. Drill out a hole, put it together with the shavings still on it. Wow. Worst thing is they didn't care. As long as they were building them they didn't care how long they lasted. That's the type of QC and pride they have in what they build.

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NEW 2010 CORVETTES ON SALE


At your local Harbor Freight.


Here it is going together, too.






This will absolutely be the end of the automobile as far as we are concerned..
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That threat alone will be enough to keep them US owned.

We, as a nation, cannot afford to lose our automotive legacy.
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We, as a nation, cannot afford to lose our automotive legacy.


Don't look now, but TOO LATE!!!!
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That threat alone will be enough to keep them US owned.

We, as a nation, cannot afford to lose our automotive legacy.


That's what the Brits said. Personally, I don't think we can afford to keep it. I won't at least.
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We, as a nation, cannot afford to lose our automotive legacy.


Don't look now, but TOO LATE!!!!


Uh huh.

Been gone for a while there.

Damn started leakin' with SONY. (Standard Oil New York)

Broke open with GATT, NAFTA, CAFTA, FTAA, WTA.

Save your money. LITERALLY.
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Since when are Toyotas made in China? I'm on my second Toyota pick-up since 1983. Super reliability.
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NEW 2010 CORVETTES ON SALE


At your local Harbor Freight.


Here it is going together, too.

http://www.youtube.com/v/PTsrf2OoBCk

This will absolutely be the end of the automobile as far as we are concerned..


eep!
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