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dan0617 Took vette out for first time with D44
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.....and it runs badass! Drove around for a while, all is fine. No gear whine or abnormal noises or anything. Love the new gearing, rpms are up about 500 at normal cruise speeds. I had about 1/2 the cam surge worked out with the tune but couldn't do any better. It is about 95% gone now with the higher cruise rpms. Would love to have went with 3.73's but I'd be out of rpms and need to go to OD before the end of the 1/4 mile.

I romped on it from about 50, man it flies through the rpms now. Seat of the pants, it made a huge difference. I am sure it made a big difference above 95 mph when the converter locks, it used to pull pretty decent up there, now it just pulls like a rocketship! I took it up to 130 and it felt great!

I heated the tires a little just to make sure the traction lock was working, and it is. Did a launch from 0, rolled quickly into the throttle. Nearly dead hooked. I think if the roads were perfectly clean and warmer it would have dead hooked. First gear gone in a flash, and second was gone very quick too. And again, it hit third then quickly locked the converter and it kept pulling HARD. Can't wait to spray the 200 shot this year. For the first time in my life I can say I am happy with the power and speed of a car and I'm currently not looking for more!!

Also installed new sunvisors today. Next will probably be a pair of Iggie's seat covers.
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Only issue Im having is with OD. It works ok if the fluid is warm, and I shift it from D to OD at about 55 or higher. When I slow down to 50 I manually drop it back to D. Problem I'm having is if I romp on it and hold it at WOT from first or second gear, up to about 80 mph or above. When I lift, it is good, as long as I'm in D. If I shift it to OD, or if I started the run and am still in OD on the shifter, the RPMS drop to 900, like idle, when I let off the gas. If I give it gas again, it revs way up like it is in neutral. This only happens if I'm in OD. If I'm in D all is fine, 3rd gear will stay engaged just fine. If I do the run in D, then let off and slow down and drive for about 10 seconds in D, then it will shift to OD just fine. But if I go for OD too early it will do what I described. If I run it up in D to near redline, then lift about 1/2 way and shift it to OD then nail it back to the floor OD does engage ok. I didn't want to try a WOT 3-4 shift as that is one of the hardest things on a 700R4.

I have no intention of tearing the trans out for this because it has no slippage at all during WOT in any gear, and all works fine as long as I don't use OD until 10 or 20 seconds after a WOT blast. Also won't try for OD till the fluid is warm, it just stays in 3rd gear till the fluid warms up some, like after 10 minutes of driving. I think this is a governor in cold fluid thing but not sure. I have the governor set up pretty agressively.

Anyone have any idea what would cause the OD issue after WOT blast? I can't figure it out, especially since it will work just fine 10 seconds or so later.
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On motor, 12.08 @ 113.15, 1.66 60 ft.
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You likely broke the sprag.
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You likely broke the sprag.


I'll be the dumb one. WTF is a sprag?
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The sprag is a holding device. It is a double splined unit that allows for rotation in 1 direction, and locks hard in the other direction. When the sprag breaks, it freewheels, so no OD. Manually upshifting gears 1-3 does not require the sprag to lock, so it works normally, until OD. Once shifted to OD, it zings the motor.

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ouch.

Doesn't that uber-suck... Have one major victory, only to break something else... sad....

I hope Pete's wrong... I really do...
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ouch.

Doesn't that uber-suck... Have one major victory, only to break something else... sad....

I hope Pete's wrong... I really do...



With the trans on the bench, it is not a difficult or expensive job really. Pulling the trans is the worst part.
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Thanks for the replies.

If it matters, I'm not manually shifting 1-3. I'm putting the car in D and letting it shift automatically. It's when I move the shifter to OD after a WOT blast that I have the problem. But again, if I leave off and stay in D for a little while, then go to OD, it works fine. Once OD is engaged, I can give it throttle and it stays engaged, or I can lift off the throttle and it still stays engaged. Converter is locked. If I floor it, it will shift out of OD and into 3rd (or 2nd if I'm going slow enough) and pull hard, no problems of any kind there.

Does it still sound like a broken sprag, or something else you can think of?
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Yup. Broken sprag. It may not be busted into pieces, but it has lost it's ability to hold. If the trans is somewhat fresh, and the builder installed a new one, it is an unusual failure, and not typical. If he reused the factory sprag because it looked good upon inspection, shame on them.
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That sucks. I'll have to find out if they used a new one or not. Is this something that is likely to get worse? Does it only affect OD or will it eventually affect all the gears?

Thanks again for the info
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On motor, 12.08 @ 113.15, 1.66 60 ft.
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That sucks. I'll have to find out if they used a new one or not. Is this something that is likely to get worse? Does it only affect OD or will it eventually affect all the gears?

Thanks again for the info

I don't know. If it grenades, it will take out everything, so I never pushed it to see.
If you are out of warranty, it is something you can fix yourself, if you want to give it a go.
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I'll check on the warranty tomorrow. Do you think the issue with it not trying for OD until the fluid is warm is sprag related as well? I thought it was governor related but I don't know much when it comes to transmissions.

And, does the sprag have anything to do with gears 1-3 and those shifts or is it just OD related?

Thanks again, and I'll quit bothering you after this.

Not sure if a sprag is something I'd tackle myself or not. I never pulled the guts out of a trans case and I have no specialized tools.
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On motor, 12.08 @ 113.15, 1.66 60 ft.
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Sprag is designed to freewheel in manual 1, 2, and 3. It locks for 4th, when in the overdrive position.

Your symptoms are classic sprag failure. Although it could be something else, I am 90% sure.
You certainly can pull the governor for inspection and cleaning, along with re-adjusting the tv cable.


No special tool are required for the sprag replacement. Pump and servo cover are removed snap rings popped and sprag accessed. It is located in the center of the input drum.
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What replacement sprag would you suggest for me?
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On motor, 12.08 @ 113.15, 1.66 60 ft.
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A sprag is made up of a 2 piece shell, and replaceable element.
I would recommend picking up a used sprag, and installing a Borg Warner 29 element replacement.

Once they fail, I never trust the races. That is why I suggest picking up a used sprag core and installing a new element. 88 and up are all good for a core.

A filter, and trans gasket kit and fluid are the only other things to buy, assuming nothing is tore up inside.

$200 should be the max everything above costs.
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that sucks..
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that sucks..


It does, but it is what it is. I just have to decide what to do.

On a 700R4 running mid 10's, I really don't expect more than about 3 seasons out of it. The problem I described didn't just start, it was doing it last year some too......

First thing I noticed was that when in OD and slowing down, once I get below about 45 mph it drops down to idle rpms. Not a problem because I manually shift out of OD when I drop below about 50 mph anyway. Never noticed the other issue till late in the year as I usually never go straight to OD after a WOT blast, I have always slowed down in D first, for the engine braking, then go to OD. Could have been doing it all along and I just never knew it because I never went for OD in that scenario. Don't know.

Since the trans is working perfectly except for OD, and OD works fine other than slow engaging until the trans fluid heats up, and the issue I described above, it makes it hard for me to tear it out of there right now. Alot going on in life AND I don't have my own garage or anything.

I always drive in D until I reach 55 mph, then I shift it to OD. If I'm going to rip it, I drop it to D then go, and I keep it in D till done. So the issues at this point really aren't hindering me at all. I just get annoyed with anything but perfection.


As far as deciding what to do, it's either fix it now, or run it till it dies then do a total rebuild or buy a totally rebuilt trans if it takes the rest of the trans out. I'm 1 season in, if it lasts for 1 or 2 more I'd just as soon run it till it quits.
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Hey Pete, I was told today that if my governor is set where I want and OD engages at too high of an rpm, I can remove the 3-4 shift valve spring and cut about 1 coil off of it to essentially weaken it. I thought he meant the accumulator spring, he said no, the actual shift valve spring. Is this true? If so, where in my valvebody is the 3-4 shift valve? Do I have to remove the valvebody to get that spring out?

OD engaging at too high of an rpm has been an issue for me from day 1, but the governor is set perfectly for the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts so I don't want to change that. IF this would lower the rpm that OD engages I would try it. I realize it won't fix the sprag but it sounds like a new sprag isn't going to fix what rpm the OD engages at either.
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Hey Pete, I was told today that if my governor is set where I want and OD engages at too high of an rpm, I can remove the 3-4 shift valve spring and cut about 1 coil off of it to essentially weaken it. I thought he meant the accumulator spring, he said no, the actual shift valve spring. Is this true? If so, where in my valvebody is the 3-4 shift valve? Do I have to remove the valvebody to get that spring out?

OD engaging at too high of an rpm has been an issue for me from day 1, but the governor is set perfectly for the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts so I don't want to change that. IF this would lower the rpm that OD engages I would try it. I realize it won't fix the sprag but it sounds like a new sprag isn't going to fix what rpm the OD engages at either.


I have never tried modding the springs in the valve body by cutting them. No idea if this could work.
If you ruin it, it is not available from GM, and is only in vette transmissions. Nearly irreplaceable.

All valves look the same, so I would not be able to describe the correct valve.
You must drop the valvebody to access the roll pin to release the sleeve and valve.
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.....and it runs badass! Drove around for a while, all is fine. No gear whine or abnormal noises or anything. Love the new gearing, rpms are up about 500 at normal cruise speeds. I had about 1/2 the cam surge worked out with the tune but couldn't do any better. It is about 95% gone now with the higher cruise rpms. Would love to have went with 3.73's but I'd be out of rpms and need to go to OD before the end of the 1/4 mile.

I romped on it from about 50, man it flies through the rpms now. Seat of the pants, it made a huge difference. I am sure it made a big difference above 95 mph when the converter locks, it used to pull pretty decent up there, now it just pulls like a rocketship! I took it up to 130 and it felt great!

I heated the tires a little just to make sure the traction lock was working, and it is. Did a launch from 0, rolled quickly into the throttle. Nearly dead hooked. I think if the roads were perfectly clean and warmer it would have dead hooked. First gear gone in a flash, and second was gone very quick too. And again, it hit third then quickly locked the converter and it kept pulling HARD. Can't wait to spray the 200 shot this year. For the first time in my life I can say I am happy with the power and speed of a car and I'm currently not looking for more!!

Also installed new sunvisors today. Next will probably be a pair of Iggie's seat covers.




good to hear buddy.
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good to hear buddy.


Thanks. I am very happy with the car for sure. Looking forward to doing some finishing touches to the interior and just enjoying it.

I should have started another thread for the trans questions. Honestly it isn't that big of deal for me. If it stays the same it isn't bothering me much at all since the way I use overdrive it isn't affecting me. Works fine at normal use for overdrive, rpms only drop if I'm going slow in OD or if I slam it right into OD after a long WOT blast. If it gets worse or breaks completely I'll have to pull the trans and get it fixed. Surely not a dealbreaker for this car for me.

How are you making out with your new setup?? I haven't gotten any updates from you lately.
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The guy who built my trans thinks it might be a valvebody thing, or possibly the sprag. He said it could be the sprag but figured that when I'm going 65 or 70, then let out of the gas quickly, if the sprag wasn't working the rpms would drop to idle then. I've always wanted to try a TCI constant pressure valvebody anyway. Even if it doesn't fix the one problem, it should allow OD to engage earlier even in cold fluid, and it will let me set the TV cable to get the part throttle shifts where I want and not have any risk of burning up the trans. I ordered one today, I'll keep you posted.
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Hey guys....nothing is irreplaceable! I live 10 minutes away from the biggest C4 graveyard in the country in Bristol,Pa. ! contemporarycorvette.com
They have to have it! This sounds like an excuse to meet Pete, Dan. Both of us are only 2 and 1/2 hours from nanticoke. Sorry to stick my nose in but If I can grab a part and get to witness The God of transmissions work, I sure wouldn't mind!
Gettin a hip replaced on Wednesday but I'll be up and around in a few days they tell me, so let me know if I can help!
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Hey guys....nothing is irreplaceable! I live 10 minutes away from the biggest C4 graveyard in the country in Bristol,Pa. ! contemporarycorvette.com
They have to have it! This sounds like an excuse to meet Pete, Dan. Both of us are only 2 and 1/2 hours from nanticoke. Sorry to stick my nose in but If I can grab a part and get to witness The God of transmissions work, I sure wouldn't mind!
Gettin a hip replaced on Wednesday but I'll be up and around in a few days they tell me, so let me know if I can help!
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been there is a sad sight for sure
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Lol, run over there and grab an orange 8000 RPM dash cluster for me. See how irreplacable one of those is...

I was just in Wrightsville, PA buying a car yesterday, lol. I should have posted, we could have gotten some brews.
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Hey guys....nothing is irreplaceable! I live 10 minutes away from the biggest C4 graveyard in the country in Bristol,Pa. ! contemporarycorvette.com
They have to have it! This sounds like an excuse to meet Pete, Dan. Both of us are only 2 and 1/2 hours from nanticoke. Sorry to stick my nose in but If I can grab a part and get to witness The God of transmissions work, I sure wouldn't mind!
Gettin a hip replaced on Wednesday but I'll be up and around in a few days they tell me, so let me know if I can help!
Alan


Wow, hip replacement and up and around in a few days. That is amazing. Good luck with the surgery and the recovery. I guess nothing is irreplaceable. I'll pray for you to have a fast and complete recovery.
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Lol, run over there and grab an orange 8000 RPM dash cluster for me. See how irreplacable one of those is...

I was just in Wrightsville, PA buying a car yesterday, lol. I should have posted, we could have gotten some brews.


i will sell you one for $15000. car included. :-)
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Hey guys....nothing is irreplaceable! I live 10 minutes away from the biggest C4 graveyard in the country in Bristol,Pa. ! contemporarycorvette.com
They have to have it! This sounds like an excuse to meet Pete, Dan. Both of us are only 2 and 1/2 hours from nanticoke. Sorry to stick my nose in but If I can grab a part and get to witness The God of transmissions work, I sure wouldn't mind!
Gettin a hip replaced on Wednesday but I'll be up and around in a few days they tell me, so let me know if I can help!
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i have had 3 knee surgeries. if you think you are going to be up and running after a few days of a hip replacement you are 10 times the man i am.. GL with the surgery and recovery.
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good to hear buddy.


Thanks. I am very happy with the car for sure. Looking forward to doing some finishing touches to the interior and just enjoying it.

I should have started another thread for the trans questions. Honestly it isn't that big of deal for me. If it stays the same it isn't bothering me much at all since the way I use overdrive it isn't affecting me. Works fine at normal use for overdrive, rpms only drop if I'm going slow in OD or if I slam it right into OD after a long WOT blast. If it gets worse or breaks completely I'll have to pull the trans and get it fixed. Surely not a dealbreaker for this car for me.

How are you making out with your new setup?? I haven't gotten any updates from you lately.





I am hoping to get her tuned for the summer. Life is busy, but the project is still a go!

I am looking forward to feeling the 550chp (approx) in the warmer months.
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I am hoping to get her tuned for the summer. Life is busy, but the project is still a go!

I am looking forward to feeling the 550chp (approx) in the warmer months.


That thing should put some power down for sure. From what I know of your build it sounds like you picked parts that will compliment each other well, which IMO is the most important part of a build. Can't wait to hear what you think of it after you get it dialed in and go ripping around in it.
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Hey guys....nothing is irreplaceable! I live 10 minutes away from the biggest C4 graveyard in the country in Bristol,Pa. ! contemporarycorvette.com
They have to have it! This sounds like an excuse to meet Pete, Dan. Both of us are only 2 and 1/2 hours from nanticoke. Sorry to stick my nose in but If I can grab a part and get to witness The God of transmissions work, I sure wouldn't mind!
Gettin a hip replaced on Wednesday but I'll be up and around in a few days they tell me, so let me know if I can help!
Alan


Wow, hip replacement and up and around in a few days. That is amazing. Good luck with the surgery and the recovery. I guess nothing is irreplaceable. I'll pray for you to have a fast and complete recovery.


Thanks for the positive thoughts guys, but, I'm serious! They kick your ass daily with therapy, so, I'm plannibg to hit the ground runnin'asap....the cancer couldn't get me last year so whats a hip? A few pain killers( I'm a pharmacist, remember, so I know exactly what to ask for LOL!) some foul language I'll be good to go. Besides, I'll need stuff to keep my mind busy... somebody ask me to hold the flashlight or hand ya a socket or somethin'....
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Lol, run over there and grab an orange 8000 RPM dash cluster for me. See how irreplacable one of those is...

I was just in Wrightsville, PA buying a car yesterday, lol. I should have posted, we could have gotten some brews.


Anytime Josh!!

Sorry to hijack the thread Dan, But if ya need an oddball part, remember I'm close to the parts graveyard!

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I am hoping to get her tuned for the summer. Life is busy, but the project is still a go!

I am looking forward to feeling the 550chp (approx) in the warmer months.


That thing should put some power down for sure. From what I know of your build it sounds like you picked parts that will compliment each other well, which IMO is the most important part of a build. Can't wait to hear what you think of it after you get it dialed in and go ripping around in it.


Thanks man!

Yeah I think it's a well thought out combo as well. Maximum power was never the goal. I will attend the track prob once when it's dialed in, and see if I can trap in the 125 mph range. Truthfully, I would rather use it for slalom events, and road courses. Kinda bored of the 1320.
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That's cool. I'd like to do something different sometime. I love the 1/4 mile blasts but can't bracket race due to no roll cage, can only run test and tunes. The car is street driven at least 3 times a week in the summer and is a vert, so I have no intention of putting in a roll cage, unless I could have one made that could be removed and replaced quickly.

Aqua, you aren't hijacking, you are adding conversation to the thread. Not a bad thing at all!
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That's cool. I'd like to do something different sometime. I love the 1/4 mile blasts but can't bracket race due to no roll cage, can only run test and tunes. The car is street driven at least 3 times a week in the summer and is a vert, so I have no intention of putting in a roll cage, unless I could have one made that could be removed and replaced quickly.

Aqua, you aren't hijacking, you are adding conversation to the thread. Not a bad thing at all!




To each there own. I would find the 1320 a tad boring in an automatic, but that's just me. I used to race dirt bikes, and have had many manual tranny cars. I just enjoy changing gears manually.

If you like the 1/4 mile blasts, you should enter a half mile or a standing mile if there is one close to you.

Wonder what your top speed would be with the vert?
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That's cool. I'd like to do something different sometime. I love the 1/4 mile blasts but can't bracket race due to no roll cage, can only run test and tunes. The car is street driven at least 3 times a week in the summer and is a vert, so I have no intention of putting in a roll cage, unless I could have one made that could be removed and replaced quickly.

Aqua, you aren't hijacking, you are adding conversation to the thread. Not a bad thing at all!


How much of a cage is required? I suppose you could have something slightly undersized to make it easier to remove, bolt it down, and cover the bolts...

I love bracket racing, I'd slow the car down if that was stopping me from running.
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I was at a couple standing mile events in Maxton, NC awhile back. Safety stuff was pretty strict depending on how fast you wanted to go. The tech guys/gals would look at your car and then tell you what class you were in; 125, 150, 175, or unlimited. Cage, harness, tire type, fire supresession, window straps, etc... All that stuff factored into what class you qualified for. I saw a guy get teched for 175 instead of unlimited because he only had one windshield strap instead of two.

With an unmodified vert, 125 is all they would have qualified him for at Maxton. You might not have been allowed to run if you were running some cheap tire that only had an N speed rating or something.

I would think Dan's car capable of 175+ given the power it makes on the bottle. I don't know much about top speed requirements though, and have done no research on a vert so that's really a WAG.
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