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corvetteronw Corvette Troubleshooting site is up and running
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This site features the vast knowledge base of Gordon Killebrew. I bought a membership during Carlisle '09 and it is good until June 2011 now.
WOW - I could surf this site for days on end! It still needs some polishing but the info is there.
https://events.nelix.com/corvettetroub ... vetteTroubleshooting.aspx
Posted on: 2010/6/17 4:14
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coolio.

I hate to be negative, but about time. I am on some email group of folks complaining about the delays. Someone emailed this week wanting their $$ back.

I think this was just a much bigger project than they anticipated.
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Wow, not cheap! I realize that you shouldn't get everything for free in life, but $10 a question seems like a lot? Still a good step in the right direction.

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What can you get there that you can't get here?
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The Gordon Killebrew seal of approval.
Posted on: 2010/6/17 14:34
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If you have a membership you can have access to the answers for each question for free.
Example is a step by step method on how to change your auto tranny fluid without putting the car on ramps or jacking it up. He even lists wrench sizes and hose diameters and explains why it works. I saw him do this at Funfest a couple of years ago but could not remember all the steps.
Basicily it involves letting the transmission pump out all the old fluid into a 5 gallon bucket by clamping a hose to the discharge line that goes to the transmission cooler/radiator. The instructions are very specific and detailed. There are thousands of these tips.
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Should appeal to the same majority of corvette guys who prefer to pay Ecklers for an AC-Delco part they can get down the street at the auto parts store for 1/4 as much.
Posted on: 2010/6/17 21:58
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If you have a membership you can have access to the answers for each question for free.


For $100 a year, or $1,000 lifetime membership!

I'm not saying it's not a wealth of corvette knowledge. Not by any means. I am sure there are 1000's of tips on there. But I think it's cost prohibitive. Look at iTunes - they sell songs for .99 and make a bundle.

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My take: For guys thet need to ask the questions, it's very reasonable. $10 to get an answer on a specific problem or $100 for someone that's doing a lot of things to their car (the guys who bought cheap cars that need everything) is cheap. What's shop labor rate? $100/hour?

Me, I'll pass on the deal though.
Posted on: 2010/6/17 23:24
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That's Gordon's standard rate, $10...
Posted on: 2010/6/18 2:35
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If people will pay that then more power to him. I guess that makes him smarter than Andy, who foolishly helps us losers out for free
Posted on: 2010/6/20 0:40
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His resume' gives him better street cred.
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Gordon ought to have price tiers. An easy question should cost less than a hard one.

Hopefully, I won't have to use it with these great FREE forums around.

I'm also put off by the fact Gordon has partnered with Jason @ Vette2Vette -- who is a PITA IMO. Way more ignored emails, refusals to take pics, and goofed sales on eBay to make me happy. He, like Ecklers, is my last resort option for finding parts.
Posted on: 2010/6/24 3:11
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Gordon ought to have price tiers. An easy question should cost less than a hard one.

Hopefully, I won't have to use it with these great FREE forums around.

I'm also put off by the fact Gordon has partnered with Jason @ Vette2Vette -- who is a PITA IMO. Way more ignored emails, refusals to take pics, and goofed sales on eBay to make me happy. He, like Ecklers, is my last resort option for finding parts.


He is not Partnered with Jason from vette2vette. I know for sure, straight from Jason.

What issues have you had with Jason? I am not defending him, but I am surprised to hear of the issues.
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Gordon's website lists Vette2Vette as a direct link*** and I'm thinking Ron mentioned their partnership at the CF.

Jason's prices are high, he sold a part promised to me more than once, won't send pics, often doesn't reply to my emails, and is frustrating to work with. I've bought a few things from him over the past 5 yrs and only one purchase went smoothly.

BTW,,,I tested him earlier this year. He'll respond to initial emails asking for price availability but will ignore more detailed questions asking about condition, pic requests, year compatibility of a part, etc....

Seat belts and a distributor were the parts I wanted that he sold to someone else. One was "accidentally sold on eBay by his wife" after purchase. The other, he forgot I spoke for it. I think he decided to go for better deals in both cases.

Many, many things have come back with high prices that I could easily beat with a forum purchase. He's the epitomy of Corvette Tax using NCRS as his constant excuse.

***Look at the upper right hand corner of the page Gordon linked in the OP!
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I have never had an issue with Vette2vette.

Odd... Then again, I take him at face and his stuff has only disappointed once, on a rather small item at that. A power door window bezel for my 92, he shipped a 91. It was better than what I had and I used it... when it died, I ordered another and it is perfect.
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I dealt with Vette2vette once, I bought some sport seats I was going to redo and put in my car. I was supposed to get nice seats that just needed recovered. What I got were two pieces of crap that had no useful parts other than the hard shells and you can argue the foam is ok. The buttons, blatters and everything else is junk. They sit in my back shed where one day I suppose they will rot to nothing. All that joy for $350. Lesson learned.
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Their search engine is jacked up.
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bummer... search engines are a pain to keep up.

It would be best to connect their system to Google and let them manage it. If the loading process fails, then the search is dead...
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So,if you dont get an answer that fixes the problem do you get you money back?I spent $40 on a phone conversation with Gordon Killebrew about my ABS problem,didnt find my problem and I was out $40.
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wow...
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Should appeal to the same majority of corvette guys who prefer to pay Ecklers for an AC-Delco part they can get down the street at the auto parts store for 1/4 as much.


Funny but true. I gotta agree with Jon on this though, if he can charge for it, more power to him. I won't be paying though. I mean, the guy's retired and wants to keep busy, I don't think he's getting rich off of it.

Free advice isn't free for the person giving it. I've put in plenty of my time helping people out online, even crack open dig through old posts or the manual or electrical diagrams sometimes, and half the time they still don't listen to you and keep asking stupid questions, or never update the thread if they did get it fixed.
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What CC said.

Also, I can see why there is no guarentee... how does he know you haven't fixed the problem and are telling a tale?
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I mean, the guy's retired and wants to keep busy, I don't think he's getting rich off of it.



From speaking to a guy who is supposedly in the know, Gordon isn't personally affiliated with the site anymore...it's just his expertise that was used and he isn't answering questions as alluded to on the front page....

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fascinating.

Was that the plan or was there a falling out? I felt the project was (perhaps) too large to be taking on... and with all the delays, maybe I wasn't far off.

I know there were a lot of unhappy ppl... ppl who paid money and were demanding refunds because of the delays.
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I won't publicize it, but I'll send you a pm later.

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ok.
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Talk about a tease.
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yea, well... I did get the rest of the story... I am not sure if it is for public consumption, though.
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still some chunks that are "coming soon."
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I think I know some of the story..

Jason told me some of it at one point..
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If his data he gives to us is valid, just one time it may be worth it. I plan way to far in advance. I will ask a question, put it into word document, then use it when money arises from the depths.
But, Gordon Killebrew may actually be the kind of information guy that can get me to do projects sooner. I just read where Gordon gave advice to someone to do a heater core in less than 3 hours, possibly. That to me would be worth a 30 dollar year subricption.
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If his data he gives to us is valid, just one time it may be worth it. I plan way to far in advance. I will ask a question, put it into word document, then use it when money arises from the depths.
But, Gordon Killebrew may actually be the kind of information guy that can get me to do projects sooner. I just read where Gordon gave advice to someone to do a heater core in less than 3 hours, possibly. That to me would be worth a 30 dollar year subricption.


Agreed, if and when you need it. I can easily see $10 for an answer that you can't find in the FSM.

It's like your automotive library (if you have one). All the books (C2 Chassis Restoration, Fiberglass & Composite Handbook, Rebuilding the LT1,etc.) are at least $30. Rven if you only find 2 or 3 tips that you didn't know in these books, they are worth the $30.
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Interesting: Noland is building the same kind of site for the restorers, due spring of 2011, $29

http://www.nolandadams.com/
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If his data he gives to us is valid, just one time it may be worth it. I plan way to far in advance. I will ask a question, put it into word document, then use it when money arises from the depths.
But, Gordon Killebrew may actually be the kind of information guy that can get me to do projects sooner. I just read where Gordon gave advice to someone to do a heater core in less than 3 hours, possibly. That to me would be worth a 30 dollar year subricption.


yea, right... 3-hr heater core... it's called a "sawzall!!"

I have done a heater core and I just don't see how it can be done any quicker. Unless I do 20 more and just get good at it.

Gordon is sharp, he just can't defy the laws of physics!!!
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If his data he gives to us is valid, just one time it may be worth it. I plan way to far in advance. I will ask a question, put it into word document, then use it when money arises from the depths.
But, Gordon Killebrew may actually be the kind of information guy that can get me to do projects sooner. I just read where Gordon gave advice to someone to do a heater core in less than 3 hours, possibly. That to me would be worth a 30 dollar year subricption.


yea, right... 3-hr heater core... it's called a "sawzall!!"

I have done a heater core and I just don't see how it can be done any quicker. Unless I do 20 more and just get good at it.

Gordon is sharp, he just can't defy the laws of physics!!!

I am with you. I am just dreading the day I have to do it, as I will need it when I go back to America, LOL. Mine started leaking about 10 years ago, so its been disconnected for 10 years here in Hawaii.
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Just let the headers do it.
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I think its time for anyone who paid money for this hack site to hurry and get your money back.

Multiple complaints on ripoff report.com, and the word on the street is gordon is being ripped off by the woman "running" the site (into the ground) and dragging his good name through the dirt.

apparently gordon isn't actually running the site, he's being used for his knowlege and isn't being paid as he was promised.

It's a good possibility that this site is going to go down in flames and all of you who paid to be on it will be out your $$.
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Hobie -

Welcome aboard!

I got an email from the site last year. Since then, I have been on the end of about 3 or 4 "reply all" emails that say about the same thing you say.

Not very many people from here, if any, have paid the money for the site. For the most part, people get their questions answered here for free.

I agree that the site has issues. And I have heard things from other sources that agree with your comments, it would be wise to get out whilst the getting is good.

The main crux of your comment, that Gordon is getting ripped off, is correct. It breaks my heart this is happening to a good man. And there were other things which have occured which are equally disturbing.
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Ok... time to clear the air on this subject.

I spoke with Jason @ Vette2Vette this morning and he is concerned that the full story isn't out and made clear.

Time to do just that:

Jason and Vette2vette have NOTHING to do with the site. This separation occured as part of his divorce from TJ about a year ago.

Gordon is no longer associated, either. I hope Gordon can get his good name back, but I don't know the contract language.

Jason is still in business and is working towards his own new site, so no worries there. Any links between the two sites will be removed shortly.
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Ok... time to clear the air on this subject.

I spoke with Jason @ Vette2Vette this morning and he is concerned that the full story isn't out and made clear.

Time to do just that:

Jason and Vette2vette have NOTHING to do with the site. This separation occured as part of his divorce from TJ about a year ago.

Gordon is no longer associated, either. I hope Gordon can get his good name back, but I don't know the contract language.

Jason is still in business and is working towards his own new site, so no worries there. Any links between the two sites will be removed shortly.


Many thanks for clearing this up, Andy. It had been bothering me for some time.
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That is really a shame. I sat and talked with Gordon at breakfast in Carlisle this year and he seemed pretty excited about the site. If you know Gordon's demeanor he not the type to show a lot of excitement about anything. But he was excited about the web site. I really hope he gets out clean.
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flyboy Re: Corvette Troubleshooting site is up and running
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Jason and Vette2vette have NOTHING to do with the site. This separation occured as part of his divorce from TJ about a year ago.




A year later and the link is still on his site?
He obviously needs to update the site more often.
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bogus Re: Corvette Troubleshooting site is up and running
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He has a new site coming, so I don't think he has spent a lot of time maintaining the old. Besides, running a business, dealing with toddler and a divorce makes doing a web site update a little less than important.

Also, the link in question is between CorvetteTroubleshooting and Vette2vette, not the other way, AFAIK.
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Interesting: Noland is building the same kind of site for the restorers, due spring of 2011, $29

http://www.nolandadams.com/



Bill, just so you know, the same woman running Gordon's site is building Noland's site. It's my understanding she is using these men for their name and information and they are getting screwed over in the process. There is NO guarentee that the answers on either site are truly the knowlege or wisdom from either of these gentlemen. Hell she could be giving completely WRONG information altogether. And some of these poor saps have paid money for it! Also, If you look at "Nolands" site, it appears she is going to auction off all of his memorabilia to "fund the site". This broad is a vulture through and through. What really concerns me is no one realizes it's this woman doing all of this and these guys are going to take the fall when the shite hits the fan.
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Ok... time to clear the air on this subject.

I spoke with Jason @ Vette2Vette this morning and he is concerned that the full story isn't out and made clear.

Time to do just that:

Jason and Vette2vette have NOTHING to do with the site. This separation occured as part of his divorce from TJ about a year ago.

Gordon is no longer associated, either. I hope Gordon can get his good name back, but I don't know the contract language.

Jason is still in business and is working towards his own new site, so no worries there. Any links between the two sites will be removed shortly.


Yes, this is what Jason told me last year..
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Interesting: Noland is building the same kind of site for the restorers, due spring of 2011, $29

http://www.nolandadams.com/



Bill, just so you know, the same woman running Gordon's site is building Noland's site. It's my understanding she is using these men for their name and information and they are getting screwed over in the process. There is NO guarentee that the answers on either site are truly the knowlege or wisdom from either of these gentlemen. Hell she could be giving completely WRONG information altogether. And some of these poor saps have paid money for it! Also, If you look at "Nolands" site, it appears she is going to auction off all of his memorabilia to "fund the site". This broad is a vulture through and through. What really concerns me is no one realizes it's this woman doing all of this and these guys are going to take the fall when the shite hits the fan.


Hey, thanks Hobie.
I haven't gone there since the first post.

Damn, some people.
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bogus Re: Corvette Troubleshooting site is up and running
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BillH wrote:
Interesting: Noland is building the same kind of site for the restorers, due spring of 2011, $29

http://www.nolandadams.com/



Bill, just so you know, the same woman running Gordon's site is building Noland's site. It's my understanding she is using these men for their name and information and they are getting screwed over in the process. There is NO guarentee that the answers on either site are truly the knowlege or wisdom from either of these gentlemen. Hell she could be giving completely WRONG information altogether. And some of these poor saps have paid money for it! Also, If you look at "Nolands" site, it appears she is going to auction off all of his memorabilia to "fund the site". This broad is a vulture through and through. What really concerns me is no one realizes it's this woman doing all of this and these guys are going to take the fall when the shite hits the fan.


I am trying to reach out to Noland... I just don't have a personal email for him.

As I know the facts, you are speaking truth.
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this used to be Nolands email

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don't know if its any good anymore

you might also try

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BTW the Noland Adams website is shut down. Interesting
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Ok. No kickback.

To preserve Noland's privacy, I have erased his emails from the thread.
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