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TommyT-Bone	928 Pics	#1
Chair-man of the bored Homestead USA 33760 Posts Member since: 2007/12/10 0:00	Here's some from the delivery.
	Posted on: 2011/4/17 17:10

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TommyT-Bone	Re: 928 Pics	#2
Chair-man of the bored Homestead USA 33760 Posts Member since: 2007/12/10 0:00	The rear hatch wouldn't latch so rather than duct tape (jk) we used a rope. It was just to make sure it didn't fly open on the highway. It worked. Made it 1526 uneventful miles. The pics make it look a little better than it really is but overall it's not bad. Good base project car.
	Posted on: 2011/4/17 17:14

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rklessdriver	Re: 928 Pics	#3
Senior Guru Woodbridge, VA 1318 Posts Member since: 2008/1/4 0:00	Dosen't look bad at all! IF the engine is as good as the rest of the car, you should be able to make quick work of it. It's a 5spd! Have fun getting use to the down and left 1st gear. Congrats. I miss mine now. Will
	Posted on: 2011/4/17 17:17
	_________________ 1984 Corvette. 434 SBC with a Powerglide. Best pass - 8.48@160MPH 1.23 60ft on MT 275/60R15 Radials. 1972 Corvette. LS5 454 BBC with M20 4 speed. Best Pass - Doing good to just pass a gas station.
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bogus	Re: 928 Pics	#4
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20859 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	shop vac, simple green, rug dr, armor all & leather conditioner - that interior will clean right up. 5spd? Looks like I am seeing a clutch pedal... or a dead pedal. I suspect the hatch is just gummed up or out of alignment. Looks way cool!!!! Can't wait to hear how the progress goes!!!
	Posted on: 2011/4/17 17:19
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Ultraman	Re: 928 Pics	#5
2015 Memorial Day Car Show Winner! Huskerland 14738 Posts Member since: 2009/9/12 19:16	Not a bad fixer upper! Should keep you out of trouble for awhile.
	Posted on: 2011/4/17 18:06
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j3studio	Re: 928 Pics	#6
Elite Guru Western Philadelphia Burbs 4247 Posts Member since: 2007/9/2 0:00	Congratulations! Here's hoping the issues are small and easily fixed.
	Posted on: 2011/4/17 19:06
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Matatk	Re: 928 Pics	#7
Webmaster SW Chicago Burbs 22803 Posts Member since: 2008/1/7 0:00	The pics look good, Tommy. Get ready for a hot interior with the black on black, huh? How much work do you anticipate for the drivetrain? Matthew
	Posted on: 2011/4/17 22:23
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TommyT-Bone	Re: 928 Pics	#8
Chair-man of the bored Homestead USA 33760 Posts Member since: 2007/12/10 0:00	I drained the fuel, got power to everything. Somebody (the wife) turned the key too far when checking the electrical system and turned over the engine a couple of revolutions. Actually it turned over freely for the little time I heard it. She knows I want to change the oil and filter and get a little marvel mystery oil into the cylinders and top end before any of that happens. The primary issue was fuel delivery when he put it up 5 years ago. He was working on it just before he died. On the agenda is a new fuel filter,fuel pump relay and fuel pump. None of those are too expensive. The plugs look to be a bear to change. The car is really in amazingly good shape for sitting around for 21 years in various stages of repair. I drove the car in 1990 so I know it should run. I'm gonna dance an Irish jig when that baby fires up. I know it will. There might be a transmission issue. I remember him mentioning it years ago. In any case, we made some progress today. A little at a time. Then there are lots of little things that need to be repaired/replaced. Time has taken it's toll on the plastic levers on the heating/cooling control panel, the clock and other trivial stuff. Attach file: Ha ha.jpg (20.25 KB)
	Posted on: 2011/4/17 23:24

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pianoguy	Re: 928 Pics	#9
Guru Emeritus Apple Valley, MN 14762 Posts Member since: 2007/12/29 0:00	Excellent!
	Posted on: 2011/4/18 1:13
	_________________ 1996 LT4 �Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you are a mile away from them and you have their shoes.�- Jack Handey
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rklessdriver	Re: 928 Pics	#10
Senior Guru Woodbridge, VA 1318 Posts Member since: 2008/1/4 0:00	The plugs are not that bad to change. Just get a long extension and go inbetween the intake runners from the top. Now routing new plug wires under the Intake runners and inbetwwen them and Plenum is another story.... As for tranny issue. All pre S4 5spd 928's have a bad sycro/blocker ring, 1st to 2nd gear. I mean ALL of them. Every single one I have driven is a little rough on the 1 to 2 gear change and the bad thing is they were doing it within 10K miles of leaving the factory... It is just a bad design that Porsche finally got figured out 10yrs into building the car. Will
	Posted on: 2011/4/18 13:16
	_________________ 1984 Corvette. 434 SBC with a Powerglide. Best pass - 8.48@160MPH 1.23 60ft on MT 275/60R15 Radials. 1972 Corvette. LS5 454 BBC with M20 4 speed. Best Pass - Doing good to just pass a gas station.
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flyboy	Re: 928 Pics	#11
Elite Guru Westmont, Il. 2632 Posts Member since: 2008/9/28 12:47	As is on the license plate, I'm sure you will provide the TLC that it needs.
	Posted on: 2011/4/18 13:57
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teebee	Re: 928 Pics	#12
2014 Memorial Day Car Show Winner! Lakin, Kansas 67860 12364 Posts Member since: 2005/9/16 0:00	She looks like a nice little project there, Tommy.
	Posted on: 2011/4/18 14:36
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biggrizzly	Re: 928 Pics	#13
2011 Memorial Day Car Show Winner! Chesapeake Beach, Maryland 4543 Posts Member since: 2006/4/23 0:00	Very Cool Toy! I had a friend in college that drove his dad's 928 to school when he had the chance. It was cool car back then for sure!! His dad was an anesthesiologist and his plates read "SANDMAN". Have fun with it.
	Posted on: 2011/4/18 14:43
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JeffK	Re: 928 Pics	#14
Elite Guru High Point, NC 1440 Posts Member since: 2010/6/18 12:27	Those seats are cool. It looks like a fun project Tommy. It doesn't look too bad from the pics but we all know how misleading they can be. Hopefully they are not too far off.
	Posted on: 2011/4/18 20:14

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TommyT-Bone	Re: 928 Pics	#15
Chair-man of the bored Homestead USA 33760 Posts Member since: 2007/12/10 0:00	Spent the afternoon in the hot sun cleaning up the interior. A couple of pieces of cracked plastic here and there but I'd say 95% of it is pretty good. I'll have to take more interior pics in the daylight. Got the relay and fuse panel diagram so I was poking around in there a little. Have to find out about clutch fluid specs. Might be giving my Porsche mechanic a little work. Primarily get it running and fix the tranny/clutch issues. I don't mind paying him. He's always been fair and reasonable to me. No sense in just throwing parts at it.
	Posted on: 2011/4/18 23:25

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TommyT-Bone	Re: 928 Pics	#16
Chair-man of the bored Homestead USA 33760 Posts Member since: 2007/12/10 0:00	Quote: Matatk wrote: Get ready for a hot interior with the black on black, huh? How much work do you anticipate for the drivetrain? Matthew You know I love the look of black on black. Just don't care for the heat it generates. Hell my 911 is black too with a deep dark red interior. We were out in it Sunday. Even with the A/C it was hot. Porsche was never a leader in A/C technology.
	Posted on: 2011/4/18 23:29

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pianoguy	Re: 928 Pics	#17
Guru Emeritus Apple Valley, MN 14762 Posts Member since: 2007/12/29 0:00	Depending on the nature of the cracked interior pieces, you might be able to fix some of them with this stuff: http://plastex.net/
	Posted on: 2011/4/19 0:17
	_________________ 1996 LT4 �Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you are a mile away from them and you have their shoes.�- Jack Handey
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biggrizzly	Re: 928 Pics	#18
2011 Memorial Day Car Show Winner! Chesapeake Beach, Maryland 4543 Posts Member since: 2006/4/23 0:00	I checked back here tonight to see if you had the car finished yet! LOL
	Posted on: 2011/4/19 0:17
	_________________ Don Haller Corvette Club of America 94Coupe, 383Stroka, PeteK Trans, 3000stall, 3.54rear, Konis and bigger sways.
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bogus	Re: 928 Pics	#19
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20859 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	Quote: rklessdriver wrote: The plugs are not that bad to change. Just get a long extension and go inbetween the intake runners from the top. Now routing new plug wires under the Intake runners and inbetwwen them and Plenum is another story.... As for tranny issue. All pre S4 5spd 928's have a bad sycro/blocker ring, 1st to 2nd gear. I mean ALL of them. Every single one I have driven is a little rough on the 1 to 2 gear change and the bad thing is they were doing it within 10K miles of leaving the factory... It is just a bad design that Porsche finally got figured out 10yrs into building the car. Will Will - Can you apply the improved syncro/blocker ring to the older transmissions?
	Posted on: 2011/4/19 0:45
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TommyT-Bone	Re: 928 Pics	#20
Chair-man of the bored Homestead USA 33760 Posts Member since: 2007/12/10 0:00	Maybe I'll give it my best shot and then give it to the mechanic if it doesn't work. That way he'll have less to look at. Whatever I do will have to be done anyway. Today I engaged the clutch and the pedal stayed on the floor. It was working OK the other day. I have a repair manual coming in the mail. That should be a great help. I've been finding lots of info on the web too. Pelican Parts blogs and several other resources have given me some good info. I've been tracking down some BBS parts too. Still hunting for a center cap screw in assembly I have 3 center caps and two lug plates . I have to pick up 2 lug plates and the wheel correct center cap. That's just cosmetics though. The mechanicals are the next thing on the hot sheet. Ain't no sense in dressing up a car that ain't running. First things first. Motor .... clutch .... cosmetics
	Posted on: 2011/4/19 1:33

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TommyT-Bone	Re: 928 Pics	#21
Chair-man of the bored Homestead USA 33760 Posts Member since: 2007/12/10 0:00	LOL Just read this while perusing the 928 forum at Pelican. Quote: m21sniper said: Dude, to totally do this right yourself is a $600.00 job, so relax, the sky has not fallen. The 79 is NOT an interference engine, and do NOT take your car to that mechanic EVER again. He is ignorant, and a blatant rip-off. $600 for everything you need, special tools(flywheel lock, tension tool), all the parts(water pump, idler puller, cam pulleys, tensioner rebuild kit, belt), the works. Any of the 928 specilty houses can sell you exactly what you need, and give you real good pointers advice on how to do it yourself. As can the nichols site, and this (and the various other 928) board(s). This is not even a particularly hard job. Shocks or motor mounts are both much more frustrating and time consuming jobs on a Shark IMO. You are about to learn a lot about your 928, and get a lot more intimately attatched with it...and save THOUSANDS. I found out quite a bit about the fuel pumps (2). I have a bunch of parts ready to order and I'm getting ready to dig in. I just wanted to find out a little about the timing belt. So far I'm going to get as much done myself as I can. Later, if I have issues, I'll call up my mechanic. From what I was reading the 79 was not particularly fond of ethanol mixed fuel. I have found an ethanol free gas station locally. It's actually alot better for my boat too from all I've read and heard.
	Posted on: 2011/4/19 4:20

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bogus	Re: 928 Pics	#22
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20859 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	10% to 15% ethanol shouldn't harm a car... a boat? different animal.
	Posted on: 2011/4/19 5:15
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rklessdriver	Re: 928 Pics	#23
Senior Guru Woodbridge, VA 1318 Posts Member since: 2008/1/4 0:00	Quote: bogus wrote: Will - Can you apply the improved syncro/blocker ring to the older transmissions? I don't think so. Completely different syncro system. Best bet once they start to grind a bit IMO is to either (1) lean to live with a slightly notchy 1-2 gear change or (2) spend the $$$ and upgrade it to a G28-10 or newer transaxel that uses the Borg Warner syncro's. My 84 had 2 trannys in it over my ownership. Suffice to say drag racing wasn't the thing to do on a regular basis with these cars.... First tranny broke on my second trip to the track. Both had the "bad 1-2 synco" deal. I drove over 100,000 miles on tranny number 2 and it never got any worse and the fluid looked great on 50K interval changes.... BTW "tranny problems" can also mean the clutch is adjusted wrong... early 928's have a 9" dual disk clutch that is a SOB to set and maintain the free play in correctly and if the car has had clutch work that is something you'll want to check. Having the clutch disks adjusted too tight can actually do real damage to these trannys' as oposed to their just normal notchyness. Will
	Posted on: 2011/4/19 15:25
	_________________ 1984 Corvette. 434 SBC with a Powerglide. Best pass - 8.48@160MPH 1.23 60ft on MT 275/60R15 Radials. 1972 Corvette. LS5 454 BBC with M20 4 speed. Best Pass - Doing good to just pass a gas station.
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TommyT-Bone	Re: 928 Pics	#24
Chair-man of the bored Homestead USA 33760 Posts Member since: 2007/12/10 0:00	Hey Billy. You want to take a stab at why when I engaged the cutch the pedal it stayed on the floor? I checked the master cylinder and the fluid level was under the min mark. You think it could be air in the system? Do the clutch and brakes work off the same master cylinder? That what I was drawn to believe and I haven't found a slave master. I'm still waiting for my repair manual so I've been surfing for info on the web. Some of my questions I've found answers to. Interesting. The master cylinder has a siphon bulb on top. I filled the mc and pumped it to pressure but maybe I'll have to do it a couple more times. In the mean time I'll search for more info on the cluth hydrolics.
	Posted on: 2011/4/19 16:16

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rklessdriver	Re: 928 Pics	#25
Senior Guru Woodbridge, VA 1318 Posts Member since: 2008/1/4 0:00	Quote: TommyT-Bone wrote: Hey Billy. You want to take a stab at why when I engaged the cutch the pedal it stayed on the floor? I checked the master cylinder and the fluid level was under the min mark. You think it could be air in the system? Do the clutch and brakes work off the same master cylinder? That what I was drawn to believe and I haven't found a slave master. I'm still waiting for my repair manual so I've been surfing for info on the web. Some of my questions I've found answers to. Interesting. The master cylinder has a siphon bulb on top. I filled the mc and pumped it to pressure but maybe I'll have to do it a couple more times. In the mean time I'll search for more info on the cluth hydrolics. Yep, it's air. My 84 did that when I let it sit too long... I went on a 9 month deployment. I came home and went to start it and the clutch went right to the floor and stayed there.... I just pulled it back up, using my hand to bring it back up off the floor and worked it like you would normally 2 person bleed brakes. Took a few mins but eventually it had enough peddel to stay up about 1/2 way off the floor by itself. Then I started it in gear and drove it to the shop (right up the road) and we flushed and bled the system. Bleeding the thing was a circus act all to itself... I seem to remember that the clutch and brakes use the same reservoir. Should be a hose going from the reservoir down and over to the clutch master. I don't remember my 84 having a siphon bulb on it. I do seem to remember the clutch master being burried next to the fender under the brake master/boster.... The slave is easy to find. Look on the bottom of the bellhousing - on the passenger side. It faces forward towards the oil pan. Here is some really good diagrams of the systems and parts on the 928. http://www.autoatlanta.com/porsche-pa ... -82/porsche_928_parts.php I used these almost every time I worked on mine, glad to see they still offer them free online. I'd hate to give you bad info as my memory is pretty good but I sold the 84 back in 2004, so alot of stuff might be fuzzy.... Will
	Posted on: 2011/4/19 18:08
	_________________ 1984 Corvette. 434 SBC with a Powerglide. Best pass - 8.48@160MPH 1.23 60ft on MT 275/60R15 Radials. 1972 Corvette. LS5 454 BBC with M20 4 speed. Best Pass - Doing good to just pass a gas station.
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TommyT-Bone	Re: 928 Pics	#26
Chair-man of the bored Homestead USA 33760 Posts Member since: 2007/12/10 0:00	Thanks for the tips. Fuzzy info is better than no info at all.
	Posted on: 2011/4/19 18:22

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TommyT-Bone	Re: 928 Pics	#27
Chair-man of the bored Homestead USA 33760 Posts Member since: 2007/12/10 0:00	Got some parts and a Chiltons manual for the 928. Repair manuals (except on CD) seem to be hard to come by. Shop manuals ... sheesh. $400 partial set 900 full set. My $40 Chiltons will do for now. It has a lot of basic info I was looking for. Thanks guys for your interim help. This sucka has 2 fuel pumps and a 3 split resevoir for the brakes and clutch. They work off the same resevoir. My goodie box that arrived today has 2 hood struts, 2 hatch struts. front windsheild wipers, assorted fuses, a gas filter, an oil filter and a fuel pump relay. I'm working my way back to the fuel pumps. The front fp is $165 for a rebuilt and 240 for a new in tank fuel pump. One I change the oil and filter, check the fuel lines and replace the fp fuse and relay we'll see how the pumps are doing. There is a nationwide Porsche parts supplier around 30 miles away so I'll probably drive up for some other needed parts. I'm getting a little more hands on with this Porsche. Not afraid to dig in and lots of stuff is more accessable than a Corvette. Pretty straight forward I'll update later with the progress we make. I was checking the right front fender area that has some fluid stains. I wet my finger and swirled it through the area and the whitish film was lifting right off. I thought it was imbedded but apparrently it's just surface stuff. Cool! I have some areas around the windows that will need some attention and under the front windshield on the hood deck. Since it looks like an easy match black I may do some patch and paint work too. Not delving into cosmetics too much yet. The interior is looking pretty good though.
	Posted on: 2011/4/23 3:17

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TommyT-Bone	Re: 928 Pics	#28
Chair-man of the bored Homestead USA 33760 Posts Member since: 2007/12/10 0:00	I placed an old sheet over the engine bay and removed the insulation from under the hood. It was some nasty dry flaky stuff so I scraped it off. Yes, the car used to be red. Still have to remove the old adhesive layer. I'll get to that later. Here's a couple of cleaned up interior shots. The muffler had some surface rust so I took a set of wire brushes to it. I'll post some after pics later. I repainted it with a high heat black. I got the hood and rear hatch struts so I'll soon be rid of the hood and hatch sticks.
	Posted on: 2011/4/23 3:39

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TommyT-Bone	Re: 928 Pics	#29
Chair-man of the bored Homestead USA 33760 Posts Member since: 2007/12/10 0:00	New matts are also on the buy list but not till I hear the engine sing.
	Posted on: 2011/4/23 3:42

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Ultraman	Re: 928 Pics	#30
2015 Memorial Day Car Show Winner! Huskerland 14738 Posts Member since: 2009/9/12 19:16	Men at Work! Looks like some progress is being made!
	Posted on: 2011/4/23 3:47
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bogus	Re: 928 Pics	#31
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20859 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	awesome!
	Posted on: 2011/4/23 6:20
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Matatk	Re: 928 Pics	#32
Webmaster SW Chicago Burbs 22803 Posts Member since: 2008/1/7 0:00	Quote: TommyT-Bone wrote: New matts are also on the buy list... We are? Pics look good, Thomas!
	Posted on: 2011/4/23 12:47
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BillH	Re: 928 Pics	#33
The Stig Moderator Reno 22702 Posts Member since: 2007/12/25 0:00	Quote: TommyT-Bone wrote: Hey Billy. You want to take a stab at why when I engaged the cutch the pedal it stayed on the floor? I checked the master cylinder and the fluid level was under the min mark. You think it could be air in the system? Probably air, it's strange that there's no return spring on the pedal. If you do try the fill & pump, you may get something but their may still be air in the lines. You can't be sure until you fire up the motor. The adhesive on the hood - I'd try the 3M spray that's used to loosen weatherstrip. It doesn't mess up paint. Came across this: http://members.rennlist.com/pirtle/
	Posted on: 2011/4/23 13:56
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pianoguy	Re: 928 Pics	#34
Guru Emeritus Apple Valley, MN 14762 Posts Member since: 2007/12/29 0:00	Making good progress, Tommy! I wonder if that muffler would be a good candidate for this: http://www.por15.com/BLACK-VELVET/productinfo/BVG/
	Posted on: 2011/4/23 18:30
	_________________ 1996 LT4 �Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you are a mile away from them and you have their shoes.�- Jack Handey
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Matatk	Re: 928 Pics	#35
Webmaster SW Chicago Burbs 22803 Posts Member since: 2008/1/7 0:00	Quote: BillH wrote: Came across this: http://members.rennlist.com/pirtle/ That's a great page, Bill. One of these days I should build one for the vette like that. One stop shopping
	Posted on: 2011/4/23 18:42
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TommyT-Bone	Re: 928 Pics	#36
Chair-man of the bored Homestead USA 33760 Posts Member since: 2007/12/10 0:00	Mistakingly posted on the other thread so I'll repost it here where it's meant to be. Update. Replaced the front wipers, hood struts, hatch struts, fuel pump relay, a couple of fuses in the fuse panel including the fuel pump fuse, the fuel filter and repaired the hatch lock that wasn't locking. Repaired with a well placed shim. Now I have to see if the fuel pump is getting any power. Still not getting any pressure so I'll check the lines and fuel pump operation. I'm also going to check all electrical systems to find out what's working and whats not. Baby steps .....
	Posted on: 2011/4/25 13:08

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Epimax	Re: 928 Pics	#37
Elite Guru Wilmington, NC 1814 Posts Member since: 2008/12/30 13:16	Very Nice!!
	Posted on: 2011/4/25 16:35

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bogus	Re: 928 Pics	#38
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20859 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	making progress! Can't wait to hear it runs again!
	Posted on: 2011/4/25 18:14
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