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sliding Re: Engine rebuild/upgrade project
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Thanks!



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I did some more work.

heads are on

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rockers are on and valve lash is adjusted

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Posted on: 2010/6/1 11:06
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SpectatorRacing Re: Engine rebuild/upgrade project
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what? You didn't paint the block Chevy orange? Shame on you!
Posted on: 2010/6/1 20:46
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flyboy Re: Engine rebuild/upgrade project
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How much pre-load did you put on the lifters?
Looks great!
Posted on: 2010/6/2 3:32
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sliding Re: Engine rebuild/upgrade project
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I've put 1/4 turn. That was working for me on my
previous lifters. But I modified valve covers so that
I can take them off in a minute and I plan to readjust
with engine running.
Posted on: 2010/6/2 6:30
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I put a 1/4 turn on mine too, but for some gut feeling I should have went 1/2

Aren't those ARP bolts so nice!!! I love quality stuff!!
Posted on: 2010/6/2 12:24
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sliding Re: Engine rebuild/upgrade project
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Quote:

SpectatorRacing wrote:
what? You didn't paint the block Chevy orange? Shame on you!




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biggrizzly wrote:
Aren't those ARP bolts so nice!!! I love quality stuff!!


They sure are! And the feeling is very good when tightening
them. No stretching whatsoever.
Posted on: 2010/6/2 13:26
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sliding Re: Engine rebuild/upgrade project
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- new Melling M-select oil pump

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- new canton RR oil pan

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- intake mainifold and valve covers are on

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- engine and trans connected and ready to be installed

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PeteK Re: Engine rebuild/upgrade project
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Looks good Bruno.
Did you degree the cam in, or just line up the dots? If you did degree it, I am curious as to where you placed it.
Posted on: 2010/7/5 2:57
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sliding Re: Engine rebuild/upgrade project
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Thanks Pete!
I've installed it straigt up (lined up the dots) and
then rechecked it with degree wheel and dial gauge to
see if everything is within the specs.

I'm a little behind with posting and pics. The engine is
allready in the car and I've fired it. I had some trans
problems but I've sorted that out.

Right now, Mick (mseven) and I are trying to get the tune
right. I'm having some idle issues. Engine is running
waaay too rich at idle. Right now I'm waiting for a new O2
sensor to come, as mine is not in the best condition.

I've started a thread on another forum but I won't start a
new one here, I'll just C/P from there:

C/P

In short here are engine specs

- 2bolt block, overbored 0.020"
- stock crank
- SCAT forged rods 5.7"
- SRP forged pistons, flat-top
- #113 heads, ported, 2.02/1.60 valves
- ported superram
- #24 FMS injectors
- Hooker LT headers
- CC XR288HR cam, 288/294 adv., 236/242 @.050", .55"/.57" lift, 110 LSA

I'm having my tune done by Mick (mseven). Engine fired
right up with his first tune but it was running rough and
very rich. From datalogs, we have noticed that vacuum is
low (70+ kPa). So I tried to find if there are any vacuum
leaks or other mechanical problems. I did find some issues,
but I sorted them out and I still have the same problems.

Problems are next:
When I start the engine it runs stable but very rich. WBO2
is showing high 11 to low 12AFR and considering the size of
the cam and overlap, I think that it's even more rich than
that.
As the engine is heating up the problems start. Engine
wants to stall and sometimes it stalls if I don't blip a
throttle. Idle starts to go up and down all the time.
IAC ccounts are allways going down. From the moment when I
start the engine IAC counts are slowly going down, until
they finally reach zero. If I adjust the throttle screw I
can get them to raise, but again, as the engine is running
IAC starts to drop.

Map signal is acting very similar. As I start the engine,
it's stable at lower 70's but as the problems with stalling
start, MAP starts to jump all over the place. I guess that
it's normal that it jumps to 90 because engine almost
stalls. All the time there is way too much fuel as I can
see it smoke and it really burns the eyes.
If I start to drive, WBO2 starts to show 14.5-15 AFR and
the smoking stops. But as soon as I stop and the engine
starts to idle, AFR gets really rich.

As for vacuums, I have plugged everything except MAP, fuel
regulator and PCV hoses. I have tried to plug the TB with
engine running and listen for any vacuum leaks but I can't
hear anything.


Any inputs and ideas are welcome!
Posted on: 2010/7/5 10:28
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sliding Re: Engine rebuild/upgrade project
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update...........


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new TPIS TB vs stock one
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and a short video
Posted on: 2010/7/11 11:47
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Is the rich idle fixed yet? It appears you have the speed/density (MAP) system and a much bigger cam than stock.
This explanation made the most sense to me.
The big cam causes lower vacuum at idle. The MAP sensor reads this to mean you are accelerating and gives more fuel causing the problem. The tuners job is to fix it.
I had the exact same situation at idle with my LT4 "Hotcam", a much milder cam than tours. Yes, when the engine started to warm up it got real bad. I assumed this was from going into closed loop. It's fine now.
Thanks for all the words and photos on the build. Sure looks nice.
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sliding Re: Engine rebuild/upgrade project
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Thanks!

Mick (mseven) and I are trying to work it out. I had a bad
O2 sensor, so we didn't do much last few days, but my new O2
should be here any day now. I hope that we'll work it out soon.
I'll post the results anyway.
Posted on: 2010/7/11 13:48
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Looks great Bruno!
Posted on: 2010/7/11 13:54
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Wow, just wow! Nice build, you have skills Brother.
Posted on: 2010/7/14 17:01
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sliding Re: Engine rebuild/upgrade project
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Thanks guys!

I really hope that I'll have issues sorted out soon
because I'm really anxious to see/feel how will the car run.
Posted on: 2010/7/14 20:18
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sliding wrote:
Thanks guys!

I really hope that I'll have issues sorted out soon
because I'm really anxious to see/feel how will the car run.


Don't let it get you down. I have a few decent issues myself.
Tune seems to be quite good, right off the bat, but the fluids leaking out are definately my doing, and a bummer to fix.
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.............

update



Finally I have some good news. I've found a small crack
on PCV hose and installed a new O2. Along with a new
tune from Mick, it gave some really good results.
I'd really like to thank Mick (mseven) for all of his help.

Idle is much smoother and there is no more smoking.
There is still some fuel smell but I believe it's mostly
because of the cam size.

I've ordered eprom emulator from Craig Moates and I'll
try to play with the tune myself a little bit with
real-time tuning. I believe that it should make things much
easier.

But even without that, I'm really happy with how engine runs
now. I've driven the car for a little bit and it's much
better than I expected. It's really drivable even in the low
rpms. But when it gets past 3k rpm, it really starts to feel
powerfull. Throttle response is absolutely great.
I still need to try out the WOT driving but I'll do that
after a couple hundred miles, after some break-in driving.

Also, I did a new exhaust a few weeks ago, so here are a few
pics of it:
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sliding wrote: update
Finally I have some good news. I've found a small crack
on PCV hose and installed a new O2. Along with a new
tune from Mick, it gave some really good results.
I'd really like to thank Mick (mseven) for all of his help.

Idle is much smoother and there is no more smoking.
There is still some fuel smell but I believe it's mostly
because of the cam size.

But even without that, I'm really happy with how engine runs
now. I've driven the car for a little bit and it's much
better than I expected. It's really drivable even in the low
rpms. But when it gets past 3k rpm, it really starts to feel
powerfull. Throttle response is absolutely great.
I still need to try out the WOT driving but I'll do that
after a couple hundred miles, after some break-in driving.

Bruno,
You are very welcome, and I'm glad to hear that it is running well.

To others who read about his project, including tunning a modded car it is important to note that without someone on the other end doing their part it cannot happen. I believe that a good tune can be attained long distance through acquiring good data. However, if the data is skewed through various inputs, no tunning in the world can make that right.

Bruno hung in there and went over various things that I suggested including sensors, leaks etc. to get his car right (just think what it must be like getting parts etc. where he lives !!). I commend his patience and all his efforts in making his project a reality....Great job!
btw I really like the new exhaust.
Mick
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Thanks Mick!

I know that this one is not topic related, but I'm just
so happy that it's on the road again, I just have to
post it:

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I'll bet it sounds great! Looks mean, you did good!
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cool, especially with what you had to go through just to get parts!
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sliding wrote:
I've put 1/4 turn. That was working for me on my
previous lifters. But I modified valve covers so that
I can take them off in a minute and I plan to readjust
with engine running.


Sounds like it is running good but if you do go back in, I've found for the engine running method, cutting a piece of 6-8" tall cardboard to fit in the head makes it a lot less messy.

As for pre-load, I've heard everything from 0 lash to 1/2 turn. I usually just try to look up the lash specs on the lifters and go from there. If you are really at 1/2 lash I bet you'll be fine.
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Bruno,
the car looks great ....I'm sure it's fun to be driving again, instead of working on it.

Mick
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