A trend......C4Guru therapy.......

Neat, IMO he is running this new solid axle business like he is running his chip business. Did one in his own car, and now he is a professional!! I personally got burned by him on that endevor. He sold me 2 chips, one for emissions, and one for performance. The motor had ported heads, headers, and a hotcam. Long story short, car ran very rich at idle and part throttle. Sent it back 3 times trying to get it corrected. Latter purchased a chip reader etc, and found he had made no table changes in the programming. Just the simple things like rev limiter, TC lock up etc. I had the chip confirmed by Nathan Plenoms, Alvin at pcmforless, and one other very reputable programmer who did not want to be named. They all agreeded, after sending them the BIN file that he had done nothing.
When I made my findings public, he, in his usual pompus way, tried to say that we did not have the equipment or ability to read his chip. He did programming that was beyond our abilities to read.
I lost $400.00 for the chips, and almost 1 year of a lot of wasted time. Now looking at that, I probably did pretty well compaired to some of the people who are spending $5,000.00 + on his newest scheme.

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A trend......C4Guru therapy.......

I would agree...seems to be alot of that over here.

There's a forum member other there, who comes over here, who said the same exact things about one of his chips.

In fact, he blames Jeese's tuning on blowing his motor costing him $4000.

Based on what I know, I wouldn't buy ice from him on a 99 degree day.

When I made my findings public, he, in his usual pompus way, tried to say that we did not have the equipment or ability to read his chip. He did programming that was beyond our abilities to read.

Just so you know, I and many others have posted and they delete our post. Leo at neverlift had a post going with him and they deleated all of Leo's parts and mine and several others. Jesse is a supporting vender and they will not allow anyone to post anything negative.

I've tried calling him out on the CF, it just gets locked/deleted because he is a paying vendor.

Just so you know, I and many others have posted and they delete our post.

Again, I dont want to see anyone over here or there get burned like myself and many others have. The difference is, Im allowed to say it over here and not over there.

^^See, I never knew any of that was going on over there.

CC this thread does have merit and pissing matches have merit as well.

If one is making some sort of claim. we can only get to the bottom of it if the issue as allowed to play out in public. The one with the proof or better argument will come out on top.

I'm glad you didn't decide to moderate it. Bashing on people...even if it is from the CF is useful. Suppression of info is never a good thing.

Crazy8 wrote:
Well, I have Jesse building one of his rear ends for my 86. We will see how it goes. My conversations with him have always been great.

All of the bitching/ranting about stuff going on over at CF is getting really tiring. It seems that I have to go over to CF more for talk about Corvettes. Only conversations going on over here lately have been people complaining about being banned, complaining about what someone said, etc. This is a forum to discuss Corvettes, right? So, why don't we use it as such!

Steve40th wrote:
You know, Politicians get rid of people that pey them contributions, and even pay back if the pulic has a beef with them, wether illegal or immoral.
So why isnt corvetteforum doing the same. He has jacked people before, so why keep him as a vendor. Seems a little questionable to keep a vendor around just because he pimps you.
Anyway, My 70 Chevelle with a 454, 3000rpm stall, 125HP shot of NOS and 12 inch slicks ran a junkyard 12 bolt with 3.55 gears for many years with no issues. Best run was high 10's. But yeah its an auto.
And, does Jesse Azzato claim the money he makes off of the stuff he sells. NOPE. IRS????

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Crazy8 wrote:
Well, I have Jesse building one of his rear ends for my 86. We will see how it goes. My conversations with him have always been great.

All of the bitching/ranting about stuff going on over at CF is getting really tiring. It seems that I have to go over to CF more for talk about Corvettes. Only conversations going on over here lately have been people complaining about being banned, complaining about what someone said, etc. This is a forum to discuss Corvettes, right? So, why don't we use it as such!

Since you have stepped down off of the soapbox let me get back up on it.

I hope the new diff. works well for you. I must tell you too, that all pre sales conversations I had with Jessie went well also. Even when I had problems with his chips he continued to talk to me. He had me to return the chips 3 different times, of course I paid all postage both ways, I had got dyno readings complete with WB readings to send to him as well as several different track, test and tune slips, and even scans. This was over a 10 month period of trying to work with him.
Jessie insisted the problem was my car. Well after turning to a real professional and getting it tuned, the difference was day and night. I had his chips read by 3 different tuners and they all said the same thing. He never changed the timing, fuel, ve, none of the tables. He only changes switches such as TC lockup, rev limiter etc, but no tuning, and to top it off, he sold me 2 chips, one for emissions, and one for performance. Guess what, they were identical.
Crazy 8, I sincerely hope your experience turns out better then mine did.
However, I must say, when I get ready to put a solid axle in mine, I will go with a real professional who has years of chassis experience such as Leo at Neverlift. Not someone who did their own car and now is marketing one to sell to the public!!
Did that with my chip, lost $400.00 Not going to make the same mistake and loose $5,000.00 not to mention the safety issues involved.
I feel sure there are people out there "especially Jessie" who would like for me to let this drop. However, this is a corvette issue and as long as he is trying to market to the public, I feel I have an obligiation to warn others about my experience with him.
Again, good luck with your purchase.

Crazy8 wrote:
Getting down off of soap box, now

jsup wrote:
That right there is what we call irony.

Notorious wrote:
If by irony you mean a transparent and gratuitous load of bullshit, then yes I agree.....

JJVETTE wrote:

It isn't really fair to compare a rear end package to a mail order chip. I've burned over 100 chips for my 383 and it is still not perfect. I still make changes after 3 years. It is virtually impossible to get a chip correct in 3 burns!

I do appreciate your eagerness to spread the word about bad products though. In a way it keeps these folks in check!
Sorry to hear about your bad experience. It is definately a buyer beware world!
John