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Roger Clemens lied: congressman
Larry DiTore and Danielle Sessa, Bloomberg News, Windsor Star
Published: Wednesday, February 13, 2008

Roger Clemens lied to congressional investigators and has made other statements that are untrue in his denials of the accusations that he used steroids and human growth hormone, U.S. Representative Henry Waxman said today.

"During his deposition, he made statements that we know are untrue," Waxman, the Democratic chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, said at the hearing on drugs in baseball. "In other areas, his statements are contradicted by other credible witnesses or are simply implausible."

Waxman and Representative Tom Davis, the committee's ranking Republican, said after the hearing that they had made no decision on recommending action by federal prosecutors on perjury.
Major League Baseball pitcher Roger Clemens leaves after testifying about allegations of steroid use by professional ball palyers before the U.S. House Oversight and Government Reform Committee on Capitol Hill February 13, 2008 in Washington, DC. The 'Mitchell Report' named several former and current major league baseball players, including Clemens, who are accused of using steroids or other performance-enhancing drugs.View Larger Image View Larger Image
Major League Baseball pitcher Roger Clemens leaves after testifying about allegations of steroid use by professional ball palyers before the U.S. House Oversight and Government Reform Committee on Capitol Hill February 13, 2008 in Washington, DC. The 'Mitchell Report' named several former and current major league baseball players, including Clemens, who are accused of using steroids or other performance-enhancing drugs.
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Former trainer Brian McNamee told the panel that he injected Clemens with steroids and human growth hormone 20 times, four more than he initially reported to investigators. Clemens, an All-Star pitcher, repeatedly denied to the committee that he ever used performance-enhancing drugs.

McNamee testified that he told the truth about Clemens's use of performance enhancers, and said the seven-time Cy Young Award winner's denials are lies.

"I injected those drugs into the body of Roger Clemens at his direction," McNamee said. "Unfortunately Roger has denied this and has led a full-court attack on my credibility. I have no reason to lie, and every reason not to."

Pettitte's Statement

Andy Pettitte, a former teammate of Clemens who also worked with McNamee, confirmed McNamee's testimony that the trainer had injected him with HGH in an affidavit given to the committee.

McNamee's recollection that Clemens attended a party hosted by former baseball player Jose Canseco was one area questioned by several committee members. Later, Waxman said Clemens's former nanny, who was interviewed by the committee, supported McNamee's claim on the attendance.

Clemens, McNamee and Charles P. Scheeler, a lawyer who worked on former Senator George Mitchell's report on performance-enhancing drugs in baseball, shared the dais at today's hearing in Washington.

The panel was investigating steroid use in Major League Baseball for the second time since the report released in December by Mitchell said performance-enhancing drugs in the sport were widespread. The report identified almost 90 players with links to drug use, including Clemens, Pettitte and Chuck Knoblauch, another former teammate with the New York Yankees.

`Never Used Drugs'

"I have never used steroids, human growth hormone, or any other type of illegal performance-enhancing drugs," Clemens said. "I think these types of drugs should play no role in athletics at any level and I fully support Senator Mitchell's conclusions that steroids have no place in baseball."

Today's hearing, which adjourned after over 4 1/2 hours of questioning, included suggestions from Representative Chris Shays that McNamee's actions were no different than those of a drug dealer; assertions from Representative Elijah Cummings that Clemens's testimony wasn't credible; and ended with Waxman gaveling down an interruption from Clemens as the chairman tried to make his closing statement.

Waxman said in opening remarks that Knoblauch had confirmed McNamee's statements that the trainer injected him with HGH. The chairman also said Knoblauch told the committee he used the drug himself on other occasions.

Pettitte, excused from testifying today, played a part in the hearing via a deposition and affidavit.

Pettitte's Presence

Cummings used Pettitte's testimony, which was shown on two large television screens in the hearing room, in his questioning of Clemens. He asked Clemens repeatedly if Pettitte was telling the truth when he said Clemens told him that he used HGH. Clemens said numerous times that Pettitte "misremembered."

McNamee, under questioning from Representative Dan Burton, admitted to lying repeatedly to reporters writing about steroids in baseball. Burton also raised doubts about the Canseco party, citing evidence provided by Clemens's attorneys that the pitcher was playing golf at the time of the gathering.

McNamee told the committee today that he remembered seeing Clemens at Canseco's party. Later, Waxman said Clemens's former nanny remembered Clemens, his wife and his children not only being at Canseco's house, but also staying overnight.

Waxman also went on to say that the actions of Clemens, who spoke with the nanny prior to the committee's interview, "raises the appearance of impropriety."

Perjury Penalties

With McNamee saying he injected Clemens with steroids and Clemens denying the claims, perjury charges may be brought against either if the committee believes one of them is lying. Perjury or making false statements to federal agents both carry penalties of up to five years in jail.

Miguel Tejada is the subject of an FBI probe for possibly lying to congressional staffers about using steroids. At the committee's first hearing on the baseball's drug issue on Jan. 15, Waxman and Davis requested the FBI to investigate the Houston Astros' shortstop after he was named in the Mitchell report.

Mitchell said McNamee told his investigation that the trainer injected Clemens with steroids or human growth hormone at least 16 times between 1998 and 2001. McNamee also said he gave HGH to Pettitte in 2002 and Knoblauch in 2001.

Clemens has said McNamee only injected him with vitamin B- 12 and the painkiller Lidocaine. The former trainer denied the claims in today's opening statement. Pettitte said he took HGH, agreeing with McNamee's statements.

Vials, Needles

Last month, McNamee gave federal investigators vials, syringes and bloody gauze that he said he used to inject Clemens with steroids in 2001. Photos of the evidence were handed over to the committee last week. Clemens's lawyer Rusty Hardin said the evidence was "manufactured trash and waste."

Clemens met with more than half of the 40 members of the committee since last week to personally present his case.

McNamee was required to tell Mitchell the truth as part of a deal he struck with the U.S. Attorney's office to avoid prosecution. If McNamee lied to Mitchell, he may be charged with criminal violations including making false statements.

-With reporting by Lorraine Woellert in Washington. Editor: Larry Siddons, Michael Sillup.


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Yup....Saying he lied

Who wudda thunk??

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hell, i would get her pregnant on purpose!

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Sorry, that was confusing. Before I tore the engine down I made sure the #1 cyl was on the compression stroke, then lined up the mark on the balancer with the 0 on the timing pointer. When I pulled a valve cover I saw that the #1 cylinder spark plug wire terminal on the distributor was kind of pointing towards the back of a certain rocker arm, as was the distributor rotor. When assembling, I made sure the new dist had the rotor pointing the same way and the cap's terminal 1 was there when putting the wires back on. Maybe that is a standard way of doing this, I don't know. I did it on my own, and it had the timing almost right on, which helps when you are going to fire her up.

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Deionized water is read as Resistivety not conductivity..


Let me rephrase the point I was trying make.
Deionized water is typically monitored as resistivity not conductivity. Thats and industry standard. I'm not saying you can't measure the quality of the water using conductivity or even TDS for that matter. Resisitivity, imo is an easier unit of measure.

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Damn Chevy engines.

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How classic would that be if Jr blew his engine in his first race at Hendrick?


I heard Teresa snuck into the Hendrick garage last night...



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She'll be back in Florida in a few weeks.Not looking like that though.

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Sorry guy's, not enough body for me. I like em a little thicker
I'm a azz, leg and thigh man, and breasteses don't hurt either.

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well i got bored n made me one....n I beam the right hieght n cut to length be cheapest n easiet...dint have I beam so i used 2 c beams back to back n welded em n cut top down to 2.5" n bottum is bout 4"square n prolly 4.5 tall...hey was free what the hey...now ifn fits i be happy ..ifn nawt i have me a mini anvil

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Two Words........CHEF SALAD

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Usually eat out one or two days a week, then try and hit the supermarket and stock the work fridge with sandwich stuff.

I'm only 10 minutes from home, but I have a hard time coming back once I go there.

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How classic would that be if Jr blew his engine in his first race at Hendrick?


I heard Teresa snuck into the Hendrick garage last night...

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Yup just watching practice for the Gatorade Duel and there were 7 cars in the garage getting engines changed.

Seem to be lifter issues with the Hendrick engines.

Clint Bowyer was the only one with a fully blown engine.

The other engines being changed as a precaution but there are issues with the engines.

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Sparse.... usually I get to the office at 7:00 and leave at 4:00. Lunch turns out to be a can of tuna or something fast. More times than not, I skipp lunch altogether.

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Tint helping an astigmatism? not a chance...

I had a waiver in Delaware, but that is because my family has a history of glochoma... and tint will help that.

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Just finished his testimony with congress BUT the justice department is now interested in this case. The plot thickens.

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now that's a novel idea... infrastructure... our roads, bridges, plumbing and mass transits are in such bad shape...

True government stimulus comes from programs that get people working. The New Deal proved that. It also proved that it is a temporary solution for a temporary problem. Bush and his moronic friends haven't figured out that Supply Side is only a stopgap for a temporary problem. In the scheme of things, it doesn't work.

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I know Toyota had some lifter/rocker issues... They were expecting a fix today. But I suspected that was an on engine repair.

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Update..

They decided not to change the engine in Nemechek's (sp) car

Gordon, Johnson and Earnhart get new engines..

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Looks like thier changing engines (with Nascars approval) in all 4 teams.

Something to do with cams and lifters.

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A friend of mine here at the office was telling me about someone he heard talking about the stimulus plan, suggesting that it would've made more sense to take that money and invest it in infrastructure than to hand it out so that folks could buy a bunch of Chinese junk. Smacks a bit of WPA, but it likely would've created some jobs, anyway.

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I hope his chest hairs are really short.

OUCH! GOTCHA!

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I wonder what sort of training and certification program is required for this guys job?

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She doesn't do much for me, particularly after I heard her interviewed on the radio here a couple years back. No sense of humor, and completely full of herself.

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Yup... A big fat steamer....

Where's mah check?

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Well, she obviously has no respect for my personal feelings...

Just like the rest of you horn-dogs!

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Lemme think about this. Her modeling in swimsuits, benefits me. Her not winning races, doesn't effect me.


I'm all for it! She's not smokin, but considering the industry she's in, its nice to see some skin anyways.

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New trans is here! :thumbright: GM's packaging sucks! It's just a huge cardboard box with some loose packing in there, looks like the trans was trying to escape the box during transit.

Also has a huge label on there about warranty: "Warranty will only be honored if GM fluid #........ is used."

It's also a blue tag. I've heard others mention green tags and grey tags for the replacements.

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Why can't she just be another driver who happens to be a woman, instead of a woman who happens to be a driver? Bah!


Because of the dollars involved! It's all marketing.
I don't blame her one bit. Make the $ while you can. It can all end tomorrow.

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I have full coverage... mostly because there are too many uninsured assholes on the roads here in SoCal... and they are just as prone to rear end you and run as to actually fess up.

It ain't worth the angst... I will pay my premiums ($460 every 6 months) and be happy knowing that if someone hits me, I am protected from financial ruin.

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Very Nice!!!!!

Think I even spotted some camel toe

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I was really happy for her when she was starting to get recognition in Indy car. Then she turned into a sex symbol... Why can't she just be another driver who happens to be a woman, instead of a woman who happens to be a driver? Bah!

She is pretty though, I'll give her that.

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Wow...... she's a pretty good model too!
She gets hotter every year. :thumbleft:

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It's a pile of crap, if you ask me.

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I don't really care. Don't follow baseball.

Hey probably has taken the $hit though.

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probably.... though I like the NBA more than baseball.... can't imagine them having a congressional hearing on much there, except there was that referee with the gambling problem....

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GM ended the year at 38.7 billion in the red....thats a record folks. The fourth quarter loss of 722 million came as gm showed signs of progress.

The Dow ind. rose 133.40 points to 12373.41 as a rally fueled by gains for financial and industrial stocks lost steam.

Obama beat Clinton in the Potomac primaries. (by a big margin) The big one is on March 4th for Ohio and Texas (for delegates). McCain wins in a closer call.

"Over half the veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan who committed suicide were Guard and Reserve troops, new data shows". from the Wall Street Journal.

Clemens set to testify in Congress today. Roger Clemens testifies today on allegations he used steroids and HGH during his career.

Have a great day.


The President to sign the stimulus bill "now". (2:00pm).

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yes I think he took the "juice" as well as probably who knows how many others.... It is my personal opinion that Congress has a vested interest in this issue because of the ramifications..... Sports as it fits in the "big picture" is a great distraction for people. Get them involved, immersed in sports and people will not focus on how miserable their lives might be, their dead end jobs, the crazy taxes etc...

Now if it were shown that sports is not "pure and pristine" but played by people who are using performance enhancers or worse then people stop looking at sports and start looking at those other things I mentioned....and the government cannot have an unhappy populace....

That's my take on the conspiracy....

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She just jumped the shark and became the "anna Kournakova" of racing.

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Yea, but she makes a great avatar.

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Then you must really be upset by the tax dollars spent taking Britney to the hospital. I heard $25,000 for that police escort...

Personally, I don't care anymore. I followed with interest when the Bonds scandal unfolded as everything I've ever read or seen on the guy indicates that he's a real asshole. I hated to see someone like that get such a huge record.

But it's like anything, dragged on way too long and apparently everyone is guilty. It's hard to care. I just go to pro sporting events for entertainment, much like going to a movie. It's getting as bad as the WWF.

I have been taking HGH myself and my lap times have not improved...I don't see that it's "performance enhancing" at all


Supposed to put it in the tank, not orally.

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Danica Patrick
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She just jumped the shark and became the "anna Kournakova" of racing.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/feat ... _swimsuit/danica-patrick/

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Re: Insurance pros and cons.....
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I am still looking for insurance that will give me a agreed upon value yet still allow me to use the car as a daily driver....


DOES NOT EXIST.

Trust me, I've looked high and low. BTW, don't confuse it with stated value or actual cash value, they are different.

Your only choices are to be either under insured, or to lie to your insurer about your driving habits.



Question: Why do you think your car is worth more than other similar ones in the autotrader? An insurer doesn't want to cover a $10K car for $15K because it opens them up to fraud. And in all honesty, why should you ever be entitled to more than replacement value?


I have no illusions about the value of my car....lol I know its a 93 with over 216k on the clock, and while it has alot of sentimental value, actual value is probably a lot less.... having said that, in the event of an accident I would probably want to be able to take off the stuff I want (i.e. undamaged wheels, and the engine if its modded) and not see it totaled out with the salvage guy taking the stuff.... cut me a check for 7 or 8k and I probably can find another one to drive till the wheels fall off....

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Re: Golf definitions
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Golf definitions

* A "Paris Hilton" - an expensive hole

* A "Lewinsky" - All lip but no hole

* A "Salman Rushdie" - an impossible read

* A "Rock Hudson" - looked straight, but it wasn't.

* A "Cuban" - needed one more revolution

* An "Elton John"- a big bender that lips the rim

* An "Adolf Hitler" - two shots in the bunker

* A "Saddam Hussein" - from one bunker straight into another

* A "Yasser Arafat" - ugly and in the sand

* A "Kate Winslett" - little bit fat but otherwise perfect

* A "Glen Miller" - didn't make it over the water

* A "Rodney King" - over-clubbed

* An "O.J. Simpson" - got away with it

* A "Princess Grace" - should have taken a driver

* A "Princess Di" - shouldn't have taken a driver

* A "Michael Jackson" - gradually fading

* A "Ladyboy" - looks like an easy hole but all is not what it seems

* A "Condom" - safe but didn't feel real good

* A "Circus Tent" - a BIG top

* An "Anna Kournikova" - looks great, but unlikely to get a result

* A "Brazilian" - Shaves both sides of the hole

* A "Jeb Bush" - too far to the right, out of play

* A "Nancy Pelosi" - too far left, clueless on how to get home from there

* A "Barbara Streisand" - doesn't get much uglier than that


Funny as hell.... thanks for breaking up the day.

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RE:Do you think Roger Clemens is guilty (of steroid use?)
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Then you must really be upset by the tax dollars spent taking Britney to the hospital. I heard $25,000 for that police escort...

Personally, I don't care anymore. I followed with interest when the Bonds scandal unfolded as everything I've ever read or seen on the guy indicates that he's a real asshole. I hated to see someone like that get such a huge record.

But it's like anything, dragged on way too long and apparently everyone is guilty. It's hard to care. I just go to pro sporting events for entertainment, much like going to a movie. It's getting as bad as the WWF.

I have been taking HGH myself and my lap times have not improved...I don't see that it's "performance enhancing" at all

Posted on: 2008/2/13 18:44
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RE:Reverse-osmosis purified water in cooling system?
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Most of the head gasket problems are at #7 and occurred well before 50,000 miles. Yours may have been repaired at some time. GM's Bulletin tied the problem to misaligned intake gaskets which led to galvanic corrosion, which eventually eroded the head gasket (and plugged up everything else). Their solution was to counterbore the intake mounting holes for gasket retainers and current production, replacement heads, have this feature. Checking #7 is as simple as pulling the plug. Look for rust on the plug threads.


phrases that sound real familiar to this topic.

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