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Re: Friday 3 October 2014
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For GRIS ;-)

WOW! WHAT A MEMORY FILE THAT OPENS UP. WHEN THAT WAS POPULAR I WAS FLYING FROM FT HOOD TO ARIZONA ABOUT TWICE A MONTH TO TRAIN A RESERVE TANK BN. MY PARTNER IN CRIME HAD SO MUCH SCRAP IRON STILL IN HIM FROM 'NAM HE COULDN'T GET THRU THE METAL DETECTORS AND THEY WOULD PULL HIM OUT FOR INDIVIDUAL SCREENING AND I'D GIVE HIM HELL OVER BEING A WANTA-BE SKYJACKER. I COULD USUALLY PASS THE DETECTORS IF THEY WEREN'T SET TOO HIGH.

THOSE WERE GREAT DAYS FOR AIR TRAVEL. SOUTHWEST, FORMERLY TREE TOP AIRLINES, PRIDED ITSELF IN HAVING A DRINK IN YOUR HAND BEFORE THE WHEELS WERE UP. WE MADE A POINT OF FLYING SOUTHWEST :-)

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Re: Friday 3 October 2014
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CLEAR AND COOL THIS MORNING, THE SUN WILL SHINE ON THE NATIONS. GOT ABOUT AN INCH AND A HALF OF RAIN YESTERDAY, WHICH WAS NEEDED.

THE FOG HAS LIFTED FROM THE EYE, WISH IT WOULD LIFT FROM THE BRAIN :-)

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Re: Thursday 2 Oct 2014
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Glad the fog is lifting GRIS....I did find the piece I want from Wilson Combat.....but holy cow it big money....I also like the 1911 style and am use to it so kinda thinking I would stick with something like it for my boot gun.....only smaller and lighter.....

http://wilsoncombat.com/new/handgun-p ... htweight.asp#.VC2uxk4o5Yc

I am surprised what the older Colt .38 Supers are bringing.....I better hold on to mine...


WC MAKES SOME GREAT GUNS. ONE OF THEIR EARLIER COMPACTS IS THE BEST SHOOTING LITTLE GUN I'VE EVER FIRED. SIG MAKES A COMPACT 1911 STYLE W/A 3" BBL THAT'S QUITE LIGHT, NICE BELLY GUN, NOT NEAR AS EXPENSIVE AS WC :-)

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Re: Thursday 2 Oct 2014
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IT'S RAINING ON THE CHEROKEES THIS MORNING, AS WELL AS NUMEROUS OTHER TRIBES & "NATIONS".

THANKS FOR ALL THE GOOD WISHES, GURUS. I'LL POST A SITREP LATER.


SO, EYE PROBLEM IS POST OP CORNEAL EDEMA. NOT COMMON BUT NOT UNHEARD OF, GOT Rx FOR IT ON ORDER. MAY NOT USE IT AS THE HAZE IS ALMOST GONE AND I DON'T WANT TO MESS WITH NATURAL PROCESSES WHEN THEY'RE GOING MY WAY. I'M A MINIMAL DRUG GUY :-)

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Re: Thursday 2 Oct 2014
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My problem is I'm a .38 Super guy in a 9MM world. I have a Colt Commander .38 Super which I truly love and am very accurate with. I have put a ton of all kinds of +P .38 rounds through it and never once has it hung fire or messed up.

I was at Scheels yesterday burning up some time and ran across a Colt Defender in a 9MM and a .45 (yikes) Great looking pistol and fit my hand just right....it just doesn't come in a .38 Super configuration....my idea is to have hand weapons in the same caliber so I can keep my ammo all the same.....now I'm looking for other brands that have .38 Super pistols.....any ideas.....should I give up on the .38's and get modern? The Super is kinda oddball....


TRY .357 SIG, PERFORMANCE WISE IT'S A LOT LIKE THE .38 SUPER AND A LOT MORE COMMON. COMMON CAL. MAY BE THE IMPOSSIBLE DREAM :-) BUT THEN I'M ABOUT GUNS LIKE SOME OF YOU ALL ARE ABOUT TOOLS. I'M WORKING TOWARD HAVING ALL MY CAR & CARRY PIECES 1911 STYLE SO THE "INTO ACTION" DRILL IS ALL THE SAME.

IF YOU'RE TIRED OF THAT COMMANDER I'LL GIVE YA FI DOLLA FOR IT.

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Re: Thursday 2 Oct 2014
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IT'S RAINING ON THE CHEROKEES THIS MORNING, AS WELL AS NUMEROUS OTHER TRIBES & "NATIONS".

THANKS FOR ALL THE GOOD WISHES, GURUS. I'LL POST A SITREP LATER.

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Re: Hump day 1 Oct 2014
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THE SUN IS SHINING ON THE NATIONS THIS MORNING, RAIN TONIGHT THEY SAY.

EYE IS IMPROVING, STILL FOGGY/HAZEY. DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS TO BE EXPECTED OR NOT. GOT A PO FOLLOW UP THIS AFTERNOON, MAY FIND OUT SOMETHING THEN.

TOMMY, I'M WITH YOU; JUST WALKING IN A MEDICAL ESTABLISHMENT CAN MAKE MY BP GO UP. SPENDING A YEAR IN THE HOSPITAL 1967-68 MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THAT :-0

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Re: Last day of September. 9/30/2014
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Hope the dogma of dealing with a cataract isn't too much to bear.


IS THAT A CATTY REMARK?

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Re: Last day of September. 9/30/2014
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Yes, the large round bales are alfalfa. The small bags are

....best church youth meeting I had ever been too...


WHEN I'M FEELING LITERARY I'LL TELL YOU ABOUT THE 2d CAV MORMON PUNCH :-)

ONE CATARACT GONE, ONE TO GO. SURGERY WAS UNEVENTFUL, TOOK ABOUT TEN MINUTES, I WAS AWAKE, SORT OF, WHILE IT WAS DONE. LIKE TO FROZE TO DEATH IN THERE. GOOD THING I GOT DRESSED UP AND WORE SOCKS. RESULTS SO FAR ARE UNDERWHELMING, MAYBE TOMORROW BRINGS SOME IMPROVEMENT.

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Re: Last Monday in September 09/29/2014
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HEY MATT, IS THAT '89 CONVERTIBLE A STICK?


I don't know yet. My buddy asked me to look at it but he is all pipe dreams and will never actually commit to buying anything. My guess is auto just based on statistics alone.


I KEEP WANTING AN '89 VERT W/ SIX SPEED. DON'T ASK ME WHY.

GET THE KNIFE IN THE EYE TOMORROW MORNING, OR MAYBE IT'S THE LASER. I CAN HARDLY WAIT :-(

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Re: Last Monday in September 09/29/2014
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HO HUM, ANOTHER NICE DAY, THE SUN IS SHINING ON THE CHEROKEES AND IT'S ABOUT 65 DEGREES.
TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE COOL WEATHER TO PUT A FRESH COAT OF REJEX ON THE BUMBLEBEE YESTERDAY. WAY TOO MUCH BENDING OVER, WHICH I AM PAYING FOR TODAY. TOLD DARLING WIFE I WAS GOING TO REJECT THE 'BEE. "WHY? I THOUGHT YOU LIKED THAT CAR." :-)

HEY MATT, IS THAT '89 CONVERTIBLE A STICK?

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Re: Sunday Chat 09.28.14
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Another warm day on tap here, should hit 81* according to the weather report. Where the heck was this all summer when I wanted to use my pool?


81 DEGREES IS SUMMER??? SURELY YOU JEST.

SUNNY AND COOL DOWN HERE THIS MORNING, THIS SPELL OF PRETTY FALL WEATHER SURE NICE. RAIN WEDNESDAY & THURSDAY THEY SAY; BUT WHAT THE HELL DO THEY KNOW :-)

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Re: Saturday Chat 09.27.14
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THAT CART CHASE WAS TOO COOL! LMAF

WAS A NICE FALL DAY IN THE NATIONS, GETTING A LITTLE DRY THO. BATTERY IN DARLING WIFE'S PATHFINDER WENT SOUTH, AFTER EVERYTHING CLOSED AT NOON. TIMING IS EVERYTHING. HAD TO TAKE IT TO WALLY WORLD IN TAHLEQUAH; UP SIDE IS WE HAD SUPPER AT OUR FAVORITE ITALIAN PLACE OVER THERE. I ALWAYS EAT TOO MUCH THERE.

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Re: Friday Chat 09.26.14
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ANOTHER GOLDILOCKS DAY IN THE NATIONS. I'M TRYING TO BEAR UP UNDER THE STRAIN :-)



....maybe some kinda medicinal drink would help.....


USEFUL THOUGHT, THAT.

SORRY ABOUT YOUR CAT, ANDY. DID YOU HAVE HER ALL THAT TIME?

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Re: TWO QUESTIONS
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Console - the 96 had that dulso finish - you can remove it and repaint if you like. Some guys are having theirs hydrodipped, as well. If that doesn't suit you, they sell reproductions - $105 here:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SHIFTER-CONSO ... sh=item3a7d9ace27&vxp=mtr

DO YOU KNOW IF THESE HAVE THE DULSO FINISH?

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Re: TWO QUESTIONS
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THIS SOUNDS LIKE THE TICKET, IF I CAN JUST FIGURE OUT WHAT COLOR TO ORDER.

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Re: Friday Chat 09.26.14
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ANOTHER GOLDILOCKS DAY IN THE NATIONS. I'M TRYING TO BEAR UP UNDER THE STRAIN :-)

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Re: Thursday 25 Sep 2014
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Lookin' at bear tracks and destroyed garbage cans yesterday.

2 houses away from mine.


THEY MAKE REALLY COOL RUGS, JUST SAYING---.


All I got's is a 9mm....................and those just piss them off.


9 MM FMJ, BRAIN SHOT WILL WORK LIKE A CHARM.


It's a Smith & Weston Sigma, real piece of crap, I'd be lucky to get 2 outa 16.


TRADE IT FOR A SIG. .357 SIG IS A REALLY NEAT ROUND, AND THE 239 A GREAT BELLY GUN. OF COURSE, FOR SELF DEFENSE NOTHING BEATS A .45.

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1. STEERING WHEEL, '87, BADLY WORN. HAD A COVER ON IT WHEN I GOT THE CAR THAT WOULDN'T STAY PUT AND MADE THE WHEEL TOO "FAT". THINKING ABOUT SHOE LEATHER DYE BUT CAN'T FIND THE RIGHT SHADE. WONDER IF I COULD WATER DOWN SOME BLACK TO CHARCOAL? ANYBODY TRIED THIS? OR IS THERE SOME PRODUCT THAT WILL DO THE TRICK?

2. CONSOLE, '96, BEAT UP, UNSIGHTLY. ANY WAY TO RE-DO THAT CRAPPY FINISH? OR IS REPLACEMENT THE BEST BET? I DON'T THINK YOU COULD EVEN PAINT OVER THAT SURFACE TO ANY GOOD EFFECT.

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Re: Thursday 25 Sep 2014
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Lookin' at bear tracks and destroyed garbage cans yesterday.

2 houses away from mine.


THEY MAKE REALLY COOL RUGS, JUST SAYING---.


All I got's is a 9mm....................and those just piss them off.


9 MM FMJ, BRAIN SHOT WILL WORK LIKE A CHARM.

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Re: Thursday 25 Sep 2014
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2 houses away from mine.


THEY MAKE REALLY COOL RUGS, JUST SAYING---

SUNNY AND COOL IN THE NATIONS TODAY, PREDICTED HIGH OF 81. GOLDILOCKS WEATHER.

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EVERY DAY THE WEATHER IS PRETTY YEAR ROUND. DON'T DRIVE IN THE RAIN/SNOW 'CAUSE I'M TOO LACY TO WASH UP AFTERWARDS.

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Re: Wednesday gathering 24 Sep 2014
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ANOTHER PRETTY FALL DAY IN THE NATIONS, 70 & SUNNY.
HAD THREE THINGS TO DO TODAY, COULD REMEMBER TWO OF THEM :-0
NEXT TUESDAY I GET THE LEFT CATARACT CUT OUT. THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF GRISDAMMERUNG.

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Re: Tuesday talk 23 Sep 2014
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THE SUN IS SHINING ON THE CHEROKEES THIS MORNING, 60 DEGREES AT PRESENT. NO FLIES ON THAT.
CONDOLENCES TO MATT, THESE MYSTERIOUS MALADIES ARE A BIG-TIME PIA.
GO IN FOR PRE-OP WORKUP ON EYES THIS MORNING.

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Re: First day of Fall 22 Sep 2014
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Is that Donkey Kongs Dad...?


NO, KING KONG'S GREAT-GRANDPA.

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Re: First day of Fall 22 Sep 2014
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Well known fact

If Mama ain't happy, then nobody's happy.


AH SO, MR KONG SAY, "HAPPY WIFE, HAPPY LIFE"

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Re: First day of Fall 22 Sep 2014
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IT'S A VERY NICE FIRST DAY OF FALL IN THE NATIONS, SUNNY AND COOL. LOVE IT! I'LL GET HARVEY OUT OF THE BARN AND RUN ERRANDS WITH THE LID OFF.
DARLING WIFE IS CHANGING TO FALL DECOR. THIS REQUIRES MANY TRIPS TO THE LOFT OF THE BARN ON MY PART, ALONG WITH PISSANTING IT UP THE HILL TO THE HOUSE. I MAY CHEAT AND GO MECHANICAL.

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Re: Sunday Chat 09.21.14
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BLONDIE'S IN FL LIVING IT UP. WHOO WHOO!

WHILE DARLING WIFE, SON, AND I WERE WATCHING THE KIDS PLAY YESTERDAY ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS CALLED DIL TO FIND OUT WHO OWNED THAT "COOL CAR" IN THE DRIVEWAY. DIL GOT A LAUGH OUT OF TELLING HER THE GRANDPARENTS :-) EVERYBODY LIKES THE BUMBLEBEE.

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Re: Sunday Chat 09.21.14
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ANOTHER DIM MORNING. NEED SUN. NEED MORE COFFEE.

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Re: Saturday Chat 09.20.14
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NICE DRIVE OVER TO F'VILLE IN THE BUMBLEBEE THIS MORNING; NO TRAFFIC SO I GOT TO DRIVE LIKE I WANTED, AT LEAST UNTIL DARLING WIFE STARTED SQUEALING LOUDER THAN THE TIRES DID ON THE CURVES AND I HAD TO SLOW DOWN :-) ALSO FOUND A BYPASS AROUND A BUNCH OF LITTLE ARKANSAS SPEEDTRAP TOWNS THAT WAS JUST AS QUICK. KIDS TEAMS BOTH WON AND THEY EACH MADE A GOAL SO ALL WAS JOYOUS.

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OVERCAST, SUN MAY COME OUT LATER THEY SAY. DON'T CARE FOR THESE LOW LIGHT LEVEL MORNINGS, MAKES IT HARD TO WAKE UP AND GET GOING. GUESS I'LL FINISH UP WEED WHACKING AND DO SOME YARD STUFF. THINKING ABOUT GOING OVER TO FAYETTEVILL TOMORROW AND WATCH THE KIDS PLAY BALL.

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Re: Thirsty Thursday 18 Sept 2014
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Where should I put the chairs BillH?


You can set them around my garage. Then you could do something exciting...........sit there and watch me sand.

Possibly a discussion like: "remember when Bill used to go to the casino?"


Fixt


Sanding's done for this year.


WOW!

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DARK, RAIN, THUNDER, LIGHTNING, BUMMER! ANOTHER NAP DAY.

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So ....... You want to be king?


http://news.yahoo.com/king-richard-ii ... ick-brutal-231734860.html


"ONE FOOT WILL I NEVER FLEE, WHILE THE BREATH IS MY BREAST WITHIN.” AS HE SAID, SO DID IT HE---IF HE LOST HIS LIFE HE DIED A KING.

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STARTED OFF FOGGY/OVERCAST THIS MORNING BUT NOW IT'S CLEARING OFF SOME.
A NICE SEPTEMBER DAY, WITH A LITTLE LUCK. DARLING WIFE IS IN OKC TODAY, SO I'M TOTALLY UN SUPERVISED. FUN FUN FUN, PARTY PARTY PARTY, OR MAYBE JUST WEED WHACKING WHILE IT'S COOL.

THINGS COULD GET BETTER TB. (OR NOT) :-)

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Re: Tuesday 9 / 16 / 2014
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JUST SAW ON THE NET A RANKING THAT SAID THE RUDEST DRIVERS IN THE COUNTRY WERE IN IDAHO. LMAO, OBVIOUSLY THESE FOLKS HAVE NEVER DRIVEN IN TULSA. ALTHOUGH, TO GIVE THEM THEIR DUE, TULSA DRIVERS ARE NOT SO MUCH INCONSIDERATE AS INEPT, INCOMPETENT AND IN THE WAY :-)

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CLOUDY AND COOL IN THE NATIONS TODAY. WENT TO OPTOMETRIST APPOINTMENT THIS MORNING; CATARACTS GROWING APACE, NOW HAVE APPOINTMENT FOR PRE-OP WORKUP NEXT TUESDAY. IT'S INEVITABLE SO MIGHT AS WELL GET IT OVER WITH. FOR SURE THEY'RE NOT GETTING ANY BETTER.

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Re: Monday again. Let's get the week started. 15 Sep 2014
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AND THEY HAVE MY '54 FORD PICKUP ALSO. 70 MPH IN SECOND GEAR. WHOO WHOO!

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Re: Monday again. Let's get the week started. 15 Sep 2014
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LOOK UP YOUR FIRST CAR:

http://www.lov2xlr8.no/broch1.html

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Re: Monday again. Let's get the week started. 15 Sep 2014
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I'LL HAVE TO WAIT TILL IT DRYS OUT TO MAKE THE COW PIES.


Fixed it for ya!


NO COWS; NO PIES. I'M ALL PEN AND NO CATTLE :-)

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Re: Monday again. Let's get the week started. 15 Sep 2014
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IT'S A DRIPPY MORNING IN THE NATIONS, NO MEANINGFUL AMOUNT OF RAIN, JUST ENOUGH TO BE MESSY. POISONED THE WASPS, BUT I'LL HAVE TO WAIT TILL IT DRYS OUT TO MOW THE COW PEN.
LOOKS LIKE ANOTHER FIRST CLASS NAP DAY.

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GOT THE OBSTACLE COURSE MOWED WHILE IT WAS COOL, EXCEPT FOR THE COW PEN WHERE THE RED WASPS HAVE REOCCUPIED THE GATE POST. CHEMICAL WARFARE IN THE MORNING, THEN I'LL FINISH UP. SURE HOPE THIS IS THE LAST TIME THIS YEAR FOR MOWING.

THANKS,JOHN

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STILL CLOUDY AND COOL IN THE NATIONS THIS MORNING, I'D LIKE A LITTLE SUNSHINE.

LIT A FIRE IN THE FIREPLACE LAST NIGHT; DIDN'T REALLY NEED IT, BUT IT WAS NICE TO WATCH AND SMELL A LITTLE WOOD SMOKE. SEEMS LIKE AN EARLY FALL.

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I see Adrian Peterson from the Vikings was arrested for child abuse for using a switch to give a spanking to one of his kids.....ARE YOU F'N KIDDING ME.....Hell we would have gladly traded off a switch for the old man's belt


BELTS SEEM TO BE A PATERNAL PREFERENCE. DOUBLED UP THEY MAKE A MORE IMPRESSIVE NOISE AND LESS PAIN. THE LATTER GOES UNNOTICED BY THE RECIPIENT. MY MATERNAL GRANDMOTHER, WHO HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY ARCHETYPE OF FEMALE VIRTUE, PREFERRED A HACKBERRY SWITCH. HAVING REARED SIX SONS SHE KNEW JUST WHAT A LITTLE BOY NEEDED TO STAY ON THE STRAIGHT AND NARROW :-)

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WHICH BRINGS UP AN IMPORTANT METAPHYSICAL QUESTION:
WHY ARE THERE SO FEW HORSES AND SO MANY HORSE'S ASSES?

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THAT KANSAS COOL HAS DRIFTED DOWN INTO THE NATIONS. 54 DEGREES THIS MORNING. LOOKS TO ME LIKE SUMMER IS OVER ALREADY. THAT'S OK BY ME, I WAS GETTING BORED WITH IT :-)

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Re: Thinking about mufflers again
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FLOWMASTERS ON MY STOCK '87-RATHER SEDATE, NO DRONE.


Is that with your hearing aid turned off, or on?


WHAT'D YOU SAY?

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FLOWMASTERS ON MY STOCK '87-RATHER SEDATE, NO DRONE.

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