Yes, and 24 hrs of new threads in C4 tech used to be 2 full pages, give or take. Now, 24 hrs of posts is only about 1/2 a page.

I will be honest, I don't go over there very often anymore.

I lurk from time to time... late last week, someone was asking about cats, and the 3rd post was about "you don't need them," and not a single person challenged that.

They are slipping into a pit of intellectual mallaise... they get what they pay for... You ban the technically knowledgeable, then you get morons expressing opinion based upon less then good information. I feel sorry for the newest members, searching for insight, not hyperbole.

Not being technically savvy myself, I view my role on this site as either class clown, or dead weight. It doesn't stop me from posting... A lot.

And a good part of the proven talent who has not been banned is staying away out of protest. As someone here mentioned in another thread and I'm doing like-wise, if I see someone who's seriously in trouble or getting bad advice, I'll contact them privately to help them out. Other than that though, I don't wish to contribute any longer to their data base of info as a whole. I'm not judging those who choose to, that's just my personal reaction to the way things are now.

... You ban the technically knowledgeable, then you get morons expressing opinion based upon less then good information...

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... You ban the technically knowledgeable, then you get morons expressing opinion based upon less then good information...

"In religion and politics people's beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing."
-- Mark Twain

I love Mark Twain. One sharp cookie.

There was a thread where someone asked for some help. Someone else referred the C4Guru forum. Then a question was asked, "Is that the one Bogus runs." I answered yes and next thing you know the thread is gone. I have seen a few threads disappear when there is a reference to this forum..

I will be honest, I don't go over there very often anymore.

I lurk from time to time... late last week, someone was asking about cats, and the 3rd post was about "you don't need them," and not a single person challenged that.

They are slipping into a pit of intellectual mallaise... they get what they pay for... You ban the technically knowledgeable, then you get morons expressing opinion based upon less then good information. I feel sorry for the newest members, searching for insight, not hyperbole.

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There was a thread where someone asked for some help. Someone else referred the C4Guru forum. Then a question was asked, "Is that the one Bogus runs." I answered yes and next thing you know the thread is gone. I have seen a few threads disappear when there is a reference to this forum..

This is the area in which I feel becomes a personal issue and not in the interest of someone becoming more educated in various aspects of these cars.
As many might be aware 3rd gen., is perhaps the most comprehensive articles regarding ECM/TUNING tech. Using this as a reference for those interested in learning (as reiteration is usually way to long to post) was/is acceptable on "that" board, and never put anyones panties in a bunch. However, mentioning another board who someone/mods doesn't like, is then a problem ?....
The premise of rule enforcing, including rule siting becomes suspect if in fact the action demonstrates a subjective viewpoint or non-equal application/enforecment of the stated rule/s. Categorizing a statement/post does not always work, as it may only be an attempt from someone to help with no malice intended. MO

This would be a good time to clarify that I never meant to imply that only tech-savvy folks make a contribution to this or any other site. All members make their contributions in any number of ways. After all, as important as reliable info is to most of us, so is the friendship, thoughts, ideas, impressions and so much more of all from any of those of a like mind. I've always enjoyed your posts both here and on CF. I was tickled to death when you finally got your car. And I'm sure multitudes of others were too. We can all identify with that initial moment when we looked at a Vette sitting in our driveway or garage and thought, "Damn, that's actually mine! How f'n cool is that? I have a Vette!"

"Is the ZR1 overrated"

I had a brilliant thing to add to this... but damnit, I totally forgot whilst looking for the thread...

Now I remember!

In the last 3 weeks, since the banning, we have added nearly 200 members and over 4000 posts.

Impressive.

Not being technically savvy myself, I view my role on this site as either class clown, or dead weight. It doesn't stop me from posting... A lot.

Now if I were to say something negative about C4Guru (like how come no one here respnded to my request for feedback on Bilstein options) do I get banned here?

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... You ban the technically knowledgeable, then you get morons expressing opinion based upon less then good information...

"In religion and politics people's beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing."
-- Mark Twain

Not being technically savvy myself, I view my role on this site as either class clown, or dead weight. It doesn't stop me from posting... A lot.

Every time you post I spit up a little bit of stomach acid. Probably just a coincidence.

Every time you post I spit up a little bit of stomach acid. Probably just a coincidence.

Sad isn't it. The future of this nation!

Id rather see a thread with one or two responses that help rather than 3 pages of nonsense.