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I waited over 20 years, from the first time I saw a C4. I hope you are as pleased with yours as I am with mine.
Congrats, and welcome to the family!  We need pix, of course.
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Mmmmmm. Monkey torture. Good times....
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How interesting. The HVLP gun needs a lot more than 8 cfm of air -- but it needs it at 10 psi (or less). My gun operates at approximately 6 psi. For compressors, ignoring all the losses you have in the pressure reducer, water separator and pipes, pressure times cfm is a constant. If you have a compressor that is rated at 8 cfm @ 90 psi, then that compressor can provide an output of 80 cfm at 9 psi. (8x90 = 80x9). Just like a high pressure gun, you need to look at both pressure and volume to determine what you need for a source. In short, a small compressor is totally inadequate for a production-size HVLP gun. Fisheye is normally caused by silicone contamination.
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well, you have to have a water pump.
But then you continue with things that prove my point. Once a certain level of temp is reached, the only thing that cools the system down is airflow over the radiator. By increasing fan speed By fans turning on By increasing coolant flow the radiator is only going to remove "X" amount of energy with stagnant air.
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The weather here is really nice also. Supposed to be sunny and mid 70s all weekend.
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If you're going to be using an mp3 player then why bother with making the unit CDR compatible? It's a snap to rip the tunes off your CDs and convert them to mp3s. I can fit 400 songs on a 1GB iPod shuffle. And as for disabling the cassette, why not get the $15 cassette adapter that allows you to play mp3 players through the existing Bose system? That's what I've done and honestly, if you're already OK with the Bose sound, then you'll be fine with this setup. Personally, I think it sounds great and the $285 you save could be spent on something to make the car go faster... :thumbright:
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[quote="jhammons01"]Anyone mentioning better coolant flow equating to better cooling is off the mark entirely.
The Heat exchange occurs in the radiator and the ability of the radiator to dissipate the energy of the water flowing through it. To prove my point, go out and get in a traffic jam, watch as the heat builds in the coolant system and then when it is good and hot, rev your motor and see if the added coolant flow cools the system........it won't The only thing that will change the temperature is airflow over the radiator....not coolant passing through the inside. The slightest forward movement will bring the temps down almost 10°. If this were true, why do we have a water pump? Airflow through the radiator is very important. Airflow plus coolant flow equals good cooling. Our aurguement was just about coolant flow. We all know when things get hot the ECM turns on the fans and things cool down. Reving your engine only changes the flow unless you have an electric pump. On other older cars, reving the engine also increased the fan speed. You can turn the fans on by using the A/C or modify your fans so you can turn them on manually. I've been in stop and go traffic in 100 plus temps and with my fans on (manually) and my electric pump running, I've never gone over 210 degrees. I just have to remember to get out of the manual mode or I'll get a "Check engine soon" when I go over 35mph. I've been using distilled water and the green stuff since I installed the electric pump.
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that is a little extreme for us daily drivers. OK for all out there that drives their car around town and to and from work...... I could see getting a device if I had to bleed brakes on that frequency. But for most of us that will have to do this once every two years or so...... oh and believe me 14 year olds are perfectly capable of pushing a brake pedal.
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NO WAY!! Are u yanks going GAY! OOPS gone GAY that was 20 yrs ago! Say it isn,t so!! R U sure Case I,ve been play,n round in the door of my Z51 an it,s all A/F?? I've got some metric and standard bolts side by side on my vette, came from the factory that way. The older designed parts, engine block, trans, rear end, rear end, etc, that predate the C4, use standard bolts, everything else is metric.
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Ok, now hit the race track every month, flush out your brake fluid every other month, and do it on a car with 6 or 8 bleeder ports. Still convinced spending an extra minute and $20-$30 once, to put speedbleeders in during a bleed, isn't worth it? Cheaper than a 14 yr old. :thumbright: It's worth it to me. I won't kill you for disagreeing with me though.
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Yes, but a constant speed pump is closer to ideal than the 500-5000 rpm pump it comes with. Obviously, the ideal is somewhere in between.
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How interesting.
So these newer guns are only spraying at 10psi?? why then are so many people saying you have to have an ~8cfm capacity compressor?? If a gun is only using 10psi then surely a smaller compressor could keep up with it.........correct? Would you attribute the "Fisheye" effect to water rather than dust? Another thing that I could never get a straight answer is.......if you look at a C4, it is really chopped up into sections. If you had a way of mixing the exact color over and over, would you really need a "Big Gun" to spray large areas??? The Clamshell is the only thing that bothers me it is a huge area...but the rest of the car is small touch up style areas with lots of breaks for masking off. If you are not changing colors and only restoring the paint, could you not paint section at a time???
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Thanks for the information - I looked in my various fuel injection books back when you made you first post and couldn't find a specific discussion. I think I may need some tuning references ...
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As I have found. Thought I would post for others that may be interested.
On the 85 the only changes that can be made are at WOT and Idle. In closed loop it tries for 14.7 to 1. Can be changed somewhat with fuel pressure adjustment.
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TGIF!! Hopefully I will get my switch tomorrow and I can change that on the vette. I might do the brakes today since its really nice outside. Maybe work on the arcade some more this weekend.
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I have seen other scenes from The Holy Grail done with Legos. That's amazing! Almost like Legos were MADE for recreating the movie! Outstanding! Thanks for posting that.
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What is an HVLP gun? HVLP stands for High Velocity Low Pressure, and it was a new technology about twenty years ago, forced by EPA emissions requirements. The essential benefit of HVLP over High Pressure is overspray. High Pressure guns typically result in about 20% of the paint going on the object being painted and about 80% becoming overspray. With HVLP, the numbers are just about reversed -- there is typically less than 20% overspray -- I forget the requirement but it's quite low -- which means over 80% goes on the object to be sprayed. Thus, lower pollution by a lot. Air source. If you use a compressor, you are pressurizing air to around 100 psi, then reducing it down to about 30-40 psi for a High Pressure gun and to below 10 psi for an HVLP gun. As the air is initially compressed, it heats up. It then gives up some of its heat as it sits in the tank and hoses. When you use the air for your spray gun, you reduce the pressure; thus, the air gets colder -- quite a bit colder than when it started in the first place. Thus, the moisture in the air comes out as water droplets. You need to have a really good moisture trap to get rid of the water. Otherwise it will ruin a perfectly good paint job. Just ask anyone -- like me -- who was bit by that problem. It's really frustrating. With a turbine compressor as a source, you only compress the air -- typically to about 5 - 7 psi. Thus the "Low Pressure" part of HVLP. It makes up for the low pressure by using high volumes of air. A turbine compressor is ideal for that type of air source. You never store the air, so it doesn't have much opportunity to cool down before you use it so there isn't much of a moisture problem. There really isn't a turbine gun, just a turbine compressor.
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I hope you're right about the Cowboys... I know. I'm a Patriots fan and would rather have them play San Diego for the AFC title. :thumbright:
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Speedbleeders here. I'm not letting any 14 year old in my car.
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Well then, I guess that I'll have to be the one here to root for the Cowboys. There is a big marathon being run here Sunday, so I can't get out of my neighborhood. Will be watching football, consuming mass quantities of booze, and maybe replace my brake booster (again).
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It's Football playoffs weekend. Chargers won't overtake the Colts, The others are pretty good, as much as i dislike both the Giants and Cowboys, I'd prefer the G-men to win.
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I'll be interested in how they work out for you.
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What is an HVLP gun?
What is a Turbine Gun? And if we get down to 4. CFM level what now?
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... in the shop I'm going to build. Now I'm jealous! Back to CentralCoaster -- another thing about HVLP guns. If you use them with compressed air, you still need to be concerned about moisture in the air supply. If you go with a turbine, moisture is normally not a problem.
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Good mornin'!
Yay, Friday! I just finished watching Simon&Simon on Sleuth. Now some strange Goldie Hawn movie has started. Actually one that I haven't seen before. Football sounds like a great weekend plan, and there's no way that I could ever root for the Cowboys.
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I can do them for free in crayon. Felt tip marker costs extra. I didn't think you were allowed to mess with anything other than finger paint?! 
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Seems pretty reasonable in $$. (About $200.00 less than I paid for my KS EVO-Zs from AFS). I researched the Kumhos and they seem like they should be ok. They don't go well in snow... go figure. Tirerack had the tire rated 17 out of 44 tires. It's only a "W" rated, but I don't think I'll be going over 168mph! They dinged it hardest for treadwear and ride comfort. I think they will fit my needs, but there is only one way to find out... put them on and drive!
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I hope you're right about the Cowboys...
Chargers over the Colts?  Maybe...
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Forgot to mention that I worked with a guy about 20 years ago that used Tata as a slang word for a woman's breast. As in "Bodacious Tatas!"
So, this would be a small tit? 
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I bought my Amigo for $2500. 300,000 miles on the chassis, but under 10k on the new engine. It's in GREAT shape! Looks like it has about 50k miles on it, overall.
I would much rather drive this than that little tin can, but I bet the Nano is the right product for their market though. My guess is that if they don't all fall apart in a couple weeks, they will sell like hotcakes. I can't imagine they would be legal for export to the U.S. though. There's LOTS of people in India though... 
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Shows you what inflation has done over the years.
That is still more than I paid for my very first car brand new off the showroom floor in 1970. It didn't have power windows either, but it did have a/c
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Can't wait to see how it looks. I think a set of red GS hash marks would look sharp too!
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Yeah, that's the one everyone seems to use (and the only one I've gotten to work with my car so far).
Hella expensive though. <--Broke college kid Looks like pretty slim pickings for most of our applications :sad7:
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My 87 had dry rot on the Goodyears. Told the Mrs. that 17" tires and wheels make more sense than buying 16" tires, (besides, I'm not fond of the stock wheels.). She signed up for it.
Called AFS today, gave them my CC #, they said they'd ship today. 4 Kumho tires, 275/40/17, 4 17x9.5 chrome ZR1s with early C4 offset. Total price $970, shipped. I'm stoked. Pics will follow as soon as possible.
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Holy Cow! $2500
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It's Football playoffs weekend.
Giants over the Cowboys Patriots beat the Jags Green Bay over Seattle Charger womp the Colts. :tongue:
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I also would like to point out.
If you are worried about your pedal going all the way to the floor and "Damaging" something..........maybe that Master Cylinder is not the thing you want your life Dependant upon....I'm just sayin'.... Maybe now would be a good time to swap out such a critical piece of equipment rather than babying it.
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Why is bleeding the brakes such a big deal that people need fancy tools? I use an 11 mm wrench and a piece of clear hose. Yes, I need another person, but is that really that tough to find? Grab a buddy or your wife or your kid. Takes 10-15 minutes. Dude, I couldn't agree with you more. I am at a loss with all these recommendations for gadgets to help you do a 20 minute job. 14 year old in the driver seat. Make sure they understand that they cannot let off the brake pedal until you give the "release" command. Take a wrench and go to the furthest wheel from the MC. Stick a piece of vacuum hose over the valve and run the other end into a coke bottle. Open the bleeder valve and tell the kid to "push"......all the way down. Then before his foot reaches the floor board you close the bleeder. then tell him to release. Now repeat this procedure until the fluid coming into the coke bottle is nice and clear without any bubbles. Then move to the next closest wheel. The pedal won't get firm until you have finished the very last wheel. If I have to warn you not to let the fill cup run dry then maybe you shouldn't be working on brakes by yourself. 20 minutes.....tops and the only special thing needed is a Coke bottle and a piece of tubing. The uncomfortable thing will be listening to your wife or son repeating "are we finished yet?"
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I've been lucky. I usually do it when I'm done painting, after the paint flashes to keep the dust down. I want to put an explosion proof fan in the shop I'm going to build. Not cheap, a 16inch with shutters is $550. Yea, cheaper than a burntdown garage.
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