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We need pix of the stove!
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These are roller lifter cams we are talking about here. The resources I used when rebuilding my engine all said that there are no worries with reusing good roller lifters.
Replace if it makes you feel better - no argument from me there. There is no pound foolishness about reusing good lifters.
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Quote: I agree. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone more particular than me when it comes to things as critical as internal engine work. In my time I've built and done other major work to literally hundreds (if not more) engines of most any type you could imagine. This includes both gas and diesel, stock and modified. Yet I've never had a catastrophic problem with any of them. Obviously if there's any doubt, I don't take a chance. But Chevy roller lifters are extremely reliable. And if they come out of an engine that's a known quantity and are fully inspected, I'd have no concerns after that in using them for a reasonable street build.
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Correction, turns out the trans is in fact remanufactured by ZF themselves in 1994. Looks brand new though. Wouldn't surprise me if all the remaining ones are this way. I imagine the supply of new transmissions was used up long ago.
If someone like ZF is gonna do a limited run of 60,000 transmissions, I presume they'd only have a few thousand surplus for factory replacement, right?
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Changes aren't necessarily good, but this one does sound beneficial. I'm glad you were able to keep the guru name alive.
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We have much more pressing problems in this country. These congressmen should stop grandstanding in front of the TV cameras (and you know the only reason they're even holding these hearings is because they know the public will be watching). Does anyone really care if a bunch of overpaid athletes (and there have been estimates that at least half the major league players have juiced at some time) want to play russian roulette with steroids? If, in fact, that many were using back when it wasn't illegal was it cheating? As I said there are more serious problems that should be dealt with. Waxman is a pompous little prick. I'd really love it if someone came up with some pics of him and farm animals in a compromising position so we would be rid of him.
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Cool and rainy here today. But tomorrow and Friday promise to be better. My guys made some major progress on some fabrication and other work today, finishing one job completely. Yesterday was mostly a screw-off day but we had a lot of fun and did some team-building. We worked on refurbishing, modifying and installing an old wood stove in the shop, since wood around here is plentiful and free. Our wood stove has headers, a connecting rod for a door handle, a spinner wheel cap for air adjustment, some '58 Ford chrome trim and etc. Everyone contributed their ideas and personal aesthetic touch. By the end of the day it was getting downright silly. It was great! In the long run, a seemingly such non-productive day will be very productive, IMO. All of us from the owner down to the greenest trainee get along great, have fun and I haven't seen a problem yet that we can't collectively solve. Have I mentioned that I love my job? :thumbleft: Too damn cool!
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replace them with the same ones recommended for that cam from the manufacture
dont be penny wise and pound foolish thats like taking a shower and putting the same underwear back on thats what i would do unless you feel lucky thats a lot of work if one goes bad and wipes out a cam lobe u mite chkwid pappyfreebyrd himwell sat u stait
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I think we're saying the same thing, in different ways.
The effects of galvanic corrosion by tap water are far worse than the effects of acidic distilled water eating the metals. But what does the 12V dc charge have to do with anything? That won't happen.
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That's a big "if" if he is not the original owner. It amazes me as to what some Vette owners neglect to do. I imagine since he is doing a hot cam conversion, he probably does not Sunday drive the vehicle. It probably sees some high rpm use. Whatever - As I said its just insurance. too much insurance is sold on all the Corvette Forums as far as I'm concerned. As long as people got extra money to throw on stuff, thats cool! I've done the same. I just think there are better things to insure than lifters at 50k miles.
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Cool and rainy here today. But tomorrow and Friday promise to be better. My guys made some major progress on some fabrication and other work today, finishing one job completely. Yesterday was mostly a screw-off day but we had a lot of fun and did some team-building. We worked on refurbishing, modifying and installing an old wood stove in the shop, since wood around here is plentiful and free. Our wood stove has headers, a connecting rod for a door handle, a spinner wheel cap for air adjustment, some '58 Ford chrome trim and etc. Everyone contributed their ideas and personal aesthetic touch. By the end of the day it was getting downright silly. It was great! In the long run, a seemingly such non-productive day will be very productive, IMO. All of us from the owner down to the greenest trainee get along great, have fun and I haven't seen a problem yet that we can't collectively solve. Have I mentioned that I love my job? :thumbleft:
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Quote: Yes, when comparing regular water to Pure water sitting in a bucket NOW Take two samples and add a 12 volt DC charge and see which one will dissolve metal faster....Electrolysis is the topic.
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From the news today, I bet Hendrick Motorsports might have a few sets they would let go real cheap.
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That's roughly the car I have been looking around for, but mine will have the torch red interior and it would be nice to have the 04. I saw many fine examples of this combination in the past couple of months and many with low miles. C5s are plentiful and the prices are dropping.
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In my book its a waste of money to go replacing fine lifters on a roller cam with only 50k miles. If you have some extra cash and don't NEED other stuff, then yes, replacements would be an insurance policy. But I bet your old ones are as good as new if you maintained the car and changed the oil regularly and had no problems. 50k miles is hardly broken in. That's a big "if" if he is not the original owner. It amazes me as to what some Vette owners neglect to do. I imagine since he is doing a hot cam conversion, he probably does not Sunday drive the vehicle. It probably sees some high rpm use.
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In my book its a waste of money to go replacing fine lifters on a roller cam with only 50k miles. If you have some extra cash and don't NEED other stuff, then yes, replacements would be an insurance policy. But I bet your old ones are as good as new if you maintained the car and changed the oil regularly and had no problems. 50k miles is hardly broken in.
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I got a set of those, too, but haven't got the car over here yet to see if they fit. I bought 'em just in case I break the originals when swapping in my new wires. Good to know in advance that they might not work. At least they were cheap.
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I know the difference you're referring to and little things like this can be a PITA. You can check the HELP and similar racks at various parts stores and also your local GM dealers. I just went through this last week while reinstalling a Chevy V8 into a vehicle that was brought to us in pieces and with quite a few pieces missing. It still used stock plug routing and so I wasn't satisfied until I could do it right. I'm a detail freak and especially when doing things like this that not done correctly, can lead to problems down the road. My customers always get at least as good of quality of work as I'd do on my own car.
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You're in there, might as well for some piece of mind. I'd suggest using the upgraded LS7 lifter. It's a direct replacement. I can sell them at 135 shipped.
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there is no question, the man knows what he wants. I respect that.
When I got my 92, I wanted Polo Green/Tan/6spd/low miles. The rest was negotiable. I found 13 pages of 2001-2004 Corvette roadsters on autotrader. One page one, there were several white ones.
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What lift is on the cam you're using? Unless it's very radical, I wouldn't worry. I changed my stock roller lifters at well over 100K miles and they were still performing well. They had been used with the Hotcam, stiffer springs, etc. for about 25K miles by then. The only reason I changed them is because I had come across a very low mileage set by that time. So while the engine was apart anyway, I swapped. I'll be using the originals again in a motor for my hot rod Model A.
I wouldn't give them another moments thought, they'll be fine. These are very good lifters in these LTx motors.
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I bag it, and have the same thing every day. Creature of habit.
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I just measured mine. The I-beam is wider on the bottom than the top.
Length - 3.5" Width, top - 1.5" Width, bottom - 4" Height - 3.5" There is also a rubber pad on top, about 3/16" thick. And the bottom has a provision to screw in a peg (centered on the bottom) that fits in the hole in your jack.
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I work in a small town in NC. My choices are burgers and such, subs, pizza, barbecue (of course) and fried everything at the chicken house. That's about it for quick lunchtime fare. Picture the smallest carburetor jet you ever saw. I'm sure that's what my arteries look like!
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hey drop t...what are the demensions of that lil rig ya got?? i ll weld me one up ....looks like the ticket fer the rearend..if you would... height of center n width of top n bottum plate .. really be preciated I will try to measure it tomorrow. Wouldn't be hard to fabricate. Kinda looks like a slice out of a railroad rail. Edit: Saw you made one. Pappy, even redneck I am losing you!
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I'd hit it.
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I get all kinds of deals on ebay and if your looking to sell stuff research first then list and you can make a pretty good ammount if the item is listed right. I was going to put up my richmond 6 speed on it but it looks like its going to sell so now I wont have to.
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can anyone help me learn the search function this site. I"m trying to find all the info I can on lowering the front of my 84.I have tried many combinations of request for info but get no help. Thank You for your help. Craig
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Back to work this evening. Delivering in Washinton Pa. Thursday morning then Whitehall Mi Friday morning. Works been kinda busy actually. Lucky I guess considering the situation some people are in. PM me next time you are coming to Reading , Pa I live about 15 miles away.
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http://ww2.collectorcartrader.com/searchresults.php Several white verts on here ! Also try corvettetrader.com
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It was a pretty quiet day at work today. I was able to get a bit of work done. It never got above freezing and we had some fine snow flurries. No accumulation. But man was it cold. Tomorrow is supposed to be back up around 50. Crazy weather for sure. All the schools around us are closed due to flu. I guess our county is next.
The wife is coming along well after back surgery. She is starting to get out a little bit. We go to the doctor tomorrow for a follow-up visit. I got several parts in from Eckler's today. Now I have to find the time to put them on. It is mostly cosmetic repairs. Hope everyone had a nice day and a great tomorrow.
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Modeling is nice, but nobody would be paying her to get in front of the camera if she wasn't a racecar driver.
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Tire rack is fine, just don't tell them what car it's going on, tell em its for a tire swing.
Once I ordered non-OEM sizes and they would not ship until they contacted me to confirm the size. At least they claimed to try and reach me. They never left a message. I was out of town and in a hurry to get the tires when I got back. They basically called, I didn't pick up, so they sat on the order until I contacted them.
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I just bought a C4 Crossbar on eBay for $11. It looks brand new. The one I bought sells new for $395. Yes it does! I just scored a cheap harness bar too :thumbleft: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBa ... e=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=001
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I will be installing a new cam in my 96 LT4 soon. I know I can use the same used stock roller lifters with my new roller cam. 50,000 miles on lifters.
Would you change them and if so, what would you use? Would also appreciate a part # for stock LT4 lifters.
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I don't blame her for doing modeling at all. She has to look out for herself first and for most. I think she is doing just that. This is really no different than college fans getting upset that their star player went pro for the money.
With that said, I am disappointed that she seems to be letting her racing career slide. She had potential and I think it would have been great to see her win. It's her life though and she's taking care of it mighty well I think. Isn't her husband some wealth dude twice her age?
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[quote]I deal with Tire Rack, pretty much exclusively. I have them dropped shipped to a local vendor and that's that. The local guys do a real nice install and a great price. Can't beat'm.
I am going to redo the front screen, and we have Tire Rack as a sponser. Can't wait! [quote] I am looking to buy a full set right now. Had good experience with tirerack.com but onlinetires.com are even cheaper, by $6.- per tire. Has anyone dealt with onlinetires.com? What's the best online place to go to, from your experience?
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Anyone got a new code?
edit: found it, gotta love Google :thumbright: http://www.retailmenot.com/view/rockauto.com 897583795983 expires on March 18, 2008 916406811285 expires on April 8, 2008
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Case, delete or re-size that pic. It's making the thread too hard to read, IMO.
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Hey man, I’m still waiting to hear you agree to the challenge that you extended. I accepted it in my last post, but you've got mail to confirm. Quote: I will pay for your gas on the return trip home if it doesn't work. But, I promise to put you up in a professional environment and provide your meals. That's cool man, thanks. Quote: I hope you understand that I’m not interested in spending a few hours trying to improve on a tune you have doubtlessly spent countless hours and many dyno pulls working out. On my car, I've made 41 dyno pulls dialing it in. I seriously doubt any tuning system could eek any more power out of it. That is pretty much my entire point. To me, it seems like you are representing your system as a way of making more power than a chip ECM. I don't think a tuned flash computer will make any more power than a tuned chip ECU. That's my main gripe. Quote: That is why I offered the ’91 Vette instead. Although I’ve done countless LS tunes, this will be exactly my second TPI tune. The car currently has a Hypertech chip, 180 degree thermostat, and a K&N Filter. Otherwise it is a 100K mile 6-speed virgin. I'm down. I guess I have a little more experience with the chip cars, but you have the advantage of the newer flash system, right? Quote: Seriously, I suspect we would agree in general the peak HP and Torque is going to be more dependent on the skill and perseverance of the tuner than in where the PCM or ECM memory lives. Those are my thoughts exactly. So I don't get why you are saying you can make more power with your set up? Quote: When I was approached about tuning “chip†cars, I looked into the cost of the hardware and software. In the end I liked this approach for several reasons. One being that once the car is tuned, the owner will have the option of modifying the tune further down the road if they modify the car. You can make all the changes in the world to a chip tune with a $70 burner from www.moates.net and some free software from Mark Manseur. Quote: On the other hand your customers are tied at the hip to you forever. This absolutely not true. Like I said, anyone I tune a chip for needs a $70 burner to make their own changes. That's it. The editing software is FREE on the Internet. I've E-mailed thousands of .bin files to people all over the country who burn that .bin to a chip and go stick it in their car. Quote: I think that independence is worth something to today’s DIY, point and click generation. And if our customer gets into trouble, he can send a scan log and we can send an updated file by email instead of snail mail (sorry USPS). I absolutely agree with you on this one. With your set-up, the customer has to buy your gear (which is over $1000) to get going. With what I do, all he needs is a $70 chip burner and some $5 chips. Like I said, I E-mail tunes all the time. Quote: Where we SNIP How many ignition and VE cells are available in a “chip†memory? As many as I want. With the chip system the core .bin file is editable. I can change the scale, and number of columns or rows in every table. I could adjust fueling in increments of as little as 10 RPM if I wanted to, or even 7 RPM on later chip cars. Quote: Where we expect our kit to make the most gain is in lower RPM torque. That is where the benefit of sequential injection will come into play. This is demonstrated in the fat torque gain in our first ever TPI tune. I agree that sequential would be nice. I don't think you'll see any benefit above 1400 RPM's as far as power is concerned. It will drive better down low though. Quote: At higher RPM things are happening so fast in the intake tract that I seriously doubt injector timing matters very much. I would say that at higher RPM, the tuner is going to have more impact than where memory lives in the PCM or ECM. Torque is what the customer feels and torque rules the street. Lol, if that were true diesel trucks would rule the street. My L98 makes 370 RWTQ compared to a buddies LT4 that makes 340 RWTQ. He absolutely decimates me from any MPH. At any speed, he will crush me. The reason is because I'm only making 270 RWHP and he's making 355. According to your theory, I should beat him on the street because I make more TQ than he does. Well, I don't. I'm sure there are countless of L98 guys out there that can vouch for getting the ass handed to them by LTX and LSX cars that make less torque and more HP. I don't have any more free time today, but we can correspond via E-mail and set up the shoot out.
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Roger Clemens lied: congressman
Larry DiTore and Danielle Sessa, Bloomberg News, Windsor Star Published: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 Roger Clemens lied to congressional investigators and has made other statements that are untrue in his denials of the accusations that he used steroids and human growth hormone, U.S. Representative Henry Waxman said today. "During his deposition, he made statements that we know are untrue," Waxman, the Democratic chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, said at the hearing on drugs in baseball. "In other areas, his statements are contradicted by other credible witnesses or are simply implausible." Waxman and Representative Tom Davis, the committee's ranking Republican, said after the hearing that they had made no decision on recommending action by federal prosecutors on perjury. Major League Baseball pitcher Roger Clemens leaves after testifying about allegations of steroid use by professional ball palyers before the U.S. House Oversight and Government Reform Committee on Capitol Hill February 13, 2008 in Washington, DC. The 'Mitchell Report' named several former and current major league baseball players, including Clemens, who are accused of using steroids or other performance-enhancing drugs.View Larger Image View Larger Image Major League Baseball pitcher Roger Clemens leaves after testifying about allegations of steroid use by professional ball palyers before the U.S. House Oversight and Government Reform Committee on Capitol Hill February 13, 2008 in Washington, DC. The 'Mitchell Report' named several former and current major league baseball players, including Clemens, who are accused of using steroids or other performance-enhancing drugs. Chip Somodevilla, Getty Images Email to a friendEmail to a friendPrinter friendlyPrinter friendly Font: * * * * * * * * AddThis Social Bookmark Button Former trainer Brian McNamee told the panel that he injected Clemens with steroids and human growth hormone 20 times, four more than he initially reported to investigators. Clemens, an All-Star pitcher, repeatedly denied to the committee that he ever used performance-enhancing drugs. McNamee testified that he told the truth about Clemens's use of performance enhancers, and said the seven-time Cy Young Award winner's denials are lies. "I injected those drugs into the body of Roger Clemens at his direction," McNamee said. "Unfortunately Roger has denied this and has led a full-court attack on my credibility. I have no reason to lie, and every reason not to." Pettitte's Statement Andy Pettitte, a former teammate of Clemens who also worked with McNamee, confirmed McNamee's testimony that the trainer had injected him with HGH in an affidavit given to the committee. McNamee's recollection that Clemens attended a party hosted by former baseball player Jose Canseco was one area questioned by several committee members. Later, Waxman said Clemens's former nanny, who was interviewed by the committee, supported McNamee's claim on the attendance. Clemens, McNamee and Charles P. Scheeler, a lawyer who worked on former Senator George Mitchell's report on performance-enhancing drugs in baseball, shared the dais at today's hearing in Washington. The panel was investigating steroid use in Major League Baseball for the second time since the report released in December by Mitchell said performance-enhancing drugs in the sport were widespread. The report identified almost 90 players with links to drug use, including Clemens, Pettitte and Chuck Knoblauch, another former teammate with the New York Yankees. `Never Used Drugs' "I have never used steroids, human growth hormone, or any other type of illegal performance-enhancing drugs," Clemens said. "I think these types of drugs should play no role in athletics at any level and I fully support Senator Mitchell's conclusions that steroids have no place in baseball." Today's hearing, which adjourned after over 4 1/2 hours of questioning, included suggestions from Representative Chris Shays that McNamee's actions were no different than those of a drug dealer; assertions from Representative Elijah Cummings that Clemens's testimony wasn't credible; and ended with Waxman gaveling down an interruption from Clemens as the chairman tried to make his closing statement. Waxman said in opening remarks that Knoblauch had confirmed McNamee's statements that the trainer injected him with HGH. The chairman also said Knoblauch told the committee he used the drug himself on other occasions. Pettitte, excused from testifying today, played a part in the hearing via a deposition and affidavit. Pettitte's Presence Cummings used Pettitte's testimony, which was shown on two large television screens in the hearing room, in his questioning of Clemens. He asked Clemens repeatedly if Pettitte was telling the truth when he said Clemens told him that he used HGH. Clemens said numerous times that Pettitte "misremembered." McNamee, under questioning from Representative Dan Burton, admitted to lying repeatedly to reporters writing about steroids in baseball. Burton also raised doubts about the Canseco party, citing evidence provided by Clemens's attorneys that the pitcher was playing golf at the time of the gathering. McNamee told the committee today that he remembered seeing Clemens at Canseco's party. Later, Waxman said Clemens's former nanny remembered Clemens, his wife and his children not only being at Canseco's house, but also staying overnight. Waxman also went on to say that the actions of Clemens, who spoke with the nanny prior to the committee's interview, "raises the appearance of impropriety." Perjury Penalties With McNamee saying he injected Clemens with steroids and Clemens denying the claims, perjury charges may be brought against either if the committee believes one of them is lying. Perjury or making false statements to federal agents both carry penalties of up to five years in jail. Miguel Tejada is the subject of an FBI probe for possibly lying to congressional staffers about using steroids. At the committee's first hearing on the baseball's drug issue on Jan. 15, Waxman and Davis requested the FBI to investigate the Houston Astros' shortstop after he was named in the Mitchell report. Mitchell said McNamee told his investigation that the trainer injected Clemens with steroids or human growth hormone at least 16 times between 1998 and 2001. McNamee also said he gave HGH to Pettitte in 2002 and Knoblauch in 2001. Clemens has said McNamee only injected him with vitamin B- 12 and the painkiller Lidocaine. The former trainer denied the claims in today's opening statement. Pettitte said he took HGH, agreeing with McNamee's statements. Vials, Needles Last month, McNamee gave federal investigators vials, syringes and bloody gauze that he said he used to inject Clemens with steroids in 2001. Photos of the evidence were handed over to the committee last week. Clemens's lawyer Rusty Hardin said the evidence was "manufactured trash and waste." Clemens met with more than half of the 40 members of the committee since last week to personally present his case. McNamee was required to tell Mitchell the truth as part of a deal he struck with the U.S. Attorney's office to avoid prosecution. If McNamee lied to Mitchell, he may be charged with criminal violations including making false statements. -With reporting by Lorraine Woellert in Washington. Editor: Larry Siddons, Michael Sillup. © Windsor Star 2008 COMMENTS ON THIS STORY Add Your Comment Add Your Comment The Rules: Keep it clean, and stay on the subject or we might delete your comment. If you see inappropriate language, e-mail us. You must have a javascript enabled browser to submit a comment. Your Name Your Comment Ads by Google Human Growth HormoneWhich Ones Really Work? We List The Top HGH Products!www.HGH-Advisory.com Baseball MitchellSee List of Players in Mitchell Report with the Free News ToolbarNews.Starware.com Alternative to SteroidsBlack Powder is a powerful and legal alternative to steroids.www.mrihq.com/blackpowder_special
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Yup....Saying he lied
Who wudda thunk??
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Sorry, that was confusing. Before I tore the engine down I made sure the #1 cyl was on the compression stroke, then lined up the mark on the balancer with the 0 on the timing pointer. When I pulled a valve cover I saw that the #1 cylinder spark plug wire terminal on the distributor was kind of pointing towards the back of a certain rocker arm, as was the distributor rotor. When assembling, I made sure the new dist had the rotor pointing the same way and the cap's terminal 1 was there when putting the wires back on. Maybe that is a standard way of doing this, I don't know. I did it on my own, and it had the timing almost right on, which helps when you are going to fire her up.
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Deionized water is read as Resistivety not conductivity.. Let me rephrase the point I was trying make. Deionized water is typically monitored as resistivity not conductivity. Thats and industry standard. I'm not saying you can't measure the quality of the water using conductivity or even TDS for that matter. Resisitivity, imo is an easier unit of measure.
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