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Jeffvette | How many of you own | ||
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A Factory Service Manual?
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Posted on: 2008/12/3 2:40
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TommyT-Bone | Re: Howmany of you own | ||
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I own a set (3 binders) but I'd much rather bother you guys.
By the way....... That gal in your avatar? She's the apple of my eye. (whatever the hell that means). |
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Posted on: 2008/12/3 2:42
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cuisinartvette | Re: Howmany of you own | ||
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You ARE my FMS, what do you mean, "own a FSM?". pffft.
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Posted on: 2008/12/3 2:45
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CSS996 | Re: How many of you own | ||
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I have a set. Actually used them once!
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Posted on: 2008/12/3 2:56
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Notorious | Re: How many of you own | ||
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You mean a *FSM*?
After I colored all the pictures in mine, I sold them. |
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Posted on: 2008/12/3 3:08
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Calm | Re: How many of you own | ||
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I pretty near wore mine out a few weeks ago chasing down elect issues. Found and fixed.
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Posted on: 2008/12/3 3:18
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jsup | Re: How many of you own | ||
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I have a set, and I still think they are the worst written stuff in existence. Once you find something they work, finding stuff I find convoluted, at best.
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Posted on: 2008/12/3 3:28
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biggrizzly | Re: How many of you own | ||
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I have a set, and have used them extensively when I rebuilt my motor. A few sections get the most work-out but still they were a lifesaver for some parts of the job.
I also have a copy of the parts manual that helps at times, but I still get lazy sometimes and ask you guys for part numbers. I still think someone that is planning on rebuilding or fixing major systems should own a set for their year car. |
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Posted on: 2008/12/3 3:34
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patgizz | Re: How many of you own | ||
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i do, and they are great.
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Posted on: 2008/12/3 3:40
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bogus | Re: How many of you own | ||
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1987, 1992, 1996.
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Posted on: 2008/12/3 3:48
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pianoguy | Re: How many of you own | ||
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I have 'em, and glad I do. I wish they had photos instead of crayon drawings, but you can't have it all, apparently. I also just bought a dealer manual on the ABS/ASR system.
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Posted on: 2008/12/3 3:56
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bogus | Re: How many of you own | ||
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The FSM is a companion to actual GM training... that's the part we don't get...
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Posted on: 2008/12/3 4:04
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1Fast04Vert | Re: How many of you own | ||
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I am with Jsup, great once you find the right pages.
Bogus also nailed it. GM techs that can read (some can) would navigate thru the manuals a lot faster than we can. |
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Posted on: 2008/12/3 4:42
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Mekanic | Re: How many of you own | ||
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I couldn't hear you over your avatar.
But I think I heard something about a FSM, if so yes I have one. now back to the avatar. |
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Posted on: 2008/12/3 5:15
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happydad | Re: How many of you own | ||
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Wow I think I bought them..I wish you would have stayed in the lines.... |
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Posted on: 2008/12/3 11:46
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kelley | Re: How many of you own | ||
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Posted on: 2008/12/3 12:31
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jimmers | Re: How many of you own | ||
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I have a set for my 90. They helped me out many times!
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Posted on: 2008/12/3 13:10
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skirlin | Re: How many of you own | ||
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Yes. It was my first Corvette related purchase after I bought my 92. After losing too many bids on ebay I just broke down and ordered them from Helms. My wife had a few words about the price but they have paid for themselves.
I agree they can be a little hard to navigate but there is a lot more year specific info than the Haynes manuals. Most thread responses at DC (also suggested C4guru.com) and here always made references to the FSM and strongly suggested to invest in a set, so I did. |
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Posted on: 2008/12/3 13:11
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BillH | Re: How many of you own | ||
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OK, How many have Factory Assembly Manuals?
Oops, there only available for C2's. |
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Posted on: 2008/12/3 13:52
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biggrizzly | Re: How many of you own | ||
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My wife says she can't remember a time when I didn't have that "big red book" laying around the house somewhere.
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Posted on: 2008/12/3 14:13
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Don Haller Corvette Club of America 94Coupe, 383Stroka, PeteK Trans, 3000stall, 3.54rear, Konis and bigger sways. |
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Schrade | Re: How many of you own | ||
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I had the prelim edition for my '87. Couldn't follow it, bad write, or I was a 'tard, or answer 'D' all of the above.
But after this, with commentary, thoughts, postups, etc., http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=2069247 I know my way through both '94 books yup. Knowledge is good. Ignorance is bliss too, unless you think you're not ignoRANT. |
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Posted on: 2008/12/3 14:25
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Matatk | Re: How many of you own | ||
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A necessary tool if you plan on doing any real work to your car. And yes, I have one for the 89.
Matthew |
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Posted on: 2008/12/3 16:00
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SpectatorRacing | Re: How many of you own | ||
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I had so many pages bookmarked that the bookmarks no longer helped...
Had to pare it down to a handful - the optispark page, torque specs, and the pinouts for the ECM. |
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Posted on: 2008/12/3 19:25
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pappyfreebird | Re: How many of you own | ||
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i gots n elcheapo clymer ,,but hey i been called convoluted many times ,so jsup , i know wud that means (but where does good lookin stud mayun fit in ta repair book?) er r ya gonna tell me that ain wud convoluted derilected freebirdin means.
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Schrade | Re: How many of you own | ||
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Well said pappy! You GIT 'im... |
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Posted on: 2008/12/3 23:28
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happydad | Re: How many of you own | ||
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God That's got to take you a long time to type that way
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Posted on: 2008/12/4 1:14
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86 Coupe,350 bored .040 over,Eagle Internals,Scorp RR.Crane Cam,Hedman Hedders,Holley Mani,TCI Trans,3:73 Rear, Demon Carb ,Hole in the hood Scooped and Lots of leaks(Horsepower) I forget :thumbleft: |
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jsup | Re: How many of you own | ||
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If I only understood the question, I'd be more than happy to answer it. |
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Posted on: 2008/12/4 1:19
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Matatk | Re: How many of you own | ||
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"Good looking stud man" are the exact words that come to mind when I think of pappy! Matthew |
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Posted on: 2008/12/4 1:21
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crash | Re: How many of you own | ||
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I HAVE THE FSM FOR MY 89 AND MY 93 I HAVE NO PROBLEM USING THEM BUT THEN AGAIN I HAVE BEEN USING SHOP MANAULS FOR 40 YRS AND MITCHELL ON DEMAND AND SUM DATA OOPS I MEAN ALDATA
PAPPY U DEFEND UR HONOR HERE DONT LET THESE BOYS GET TO U |
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Posted on: 2008/12/4 1:36
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pappyfreebird | Re: How many of you own | ||
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oh mayun i rekon i fugged up ,, nuttin were said bout me personally at all,,i jus saw jsup sss big werd of convoluted , jus sayun i knowd wud it means cause been called it by many..n jus sayun it must mean good lookin stud mayun ..well i r gonna fuggan hope so anyway wahahahaha .so jus so we re square people n specially you jsup ,, i jus threw in my 2 cents wasnt defendin er offendid either woot woot woot hey lets all blow a fatty!! nawt i have better things ta do ,,besides i hear tell that cheeyut (evin ifn quit fer ova 20 yrs ) makes ya sorta twisted n sum say kin evin make ya spell funny ...fug imagine that,,sure glad i nevo touched any a that cheeyut!!! ..ok i go back in my corner n shut up
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NEVRL8T | Re: How many of you own | ||
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I have a set for my '92.
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Posted on: 2008/12/8 22:23
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daddue11 | Re: How many of you own | ||
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I first given the 84 set on cd by a friend, then, Last Christmas another friend gave me the printed set so I can take it out to the garage and read it while I'm working on the Vette.
Those and my code reader plus this site has been my most valuable tools while working on my 84. Between the three there hasn't been a prob that I can't diagnose and fix. |
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Posted on: 2008/12/10 21:09
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DaleD | Re: How many of you own | ||
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I have the prelim edition for the 87. I can't make heads or tails of that thing. I bought a Haynes so I could at least find things on the darn car. I guess I'm a 'tard too? My wife has been telling me that for years. |
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Posted on: 2008/12/10 21:53
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85L98-84L83 | Re: How many of you own | ||
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Jeffvette, STOP POSTING PICTURES OF MY WIFE!!!!!!!!!
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Posted on: 2008/12/11 22:15
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bogus | Re: How many of you own | ||
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you ain't... the manual is written as a study guide for professional training that the techs get. It is a valuable resource, you just need the insight on what it is telling you and without patience and a little fore knowledge, you are going to be lost. I wish I knew exactly how I am able to understand the damned thing, but I do... |
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Posted on: 2008/12/14 21:56
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Danspeed1 | Re: How many of you own | ||
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I do for the Impala, but I prefer Alldata which is what I used for the Vette and Monte Carlo.
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Posted on: 2008/12/16 2:01
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Randyj75 | Re: How many of you own | ||
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Yep, I got one. Picked it up at Carlise the first year after I bought my current car. Like everyone says, best money you can spend on the car.
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Posted on: 2008/12/17 0:16
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-=Jeff=- | Re: How many of you own | ||
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yes I have a bunch
89 Red book 90 Prelim 90 unbound Red book (in 3 binders) 90-95 LT5 supplement 91 Prelim 91 Red Book 92 Red Book 96 Red Book |
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Posted on: 2008/12/18 19:59
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80sRule | Re: How many of you own | ||
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I own a set and I like them. My favorite part is that they've got nice trouble charts for diagnosing CELs. Also helped in giving me a testing procedure for my cruise control when it failed.
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Posted on: 2008/12/18 20:15
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volzfan | Re: How many of you own | ||
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I have one........one of the best things I've bought for my 'Vette. It's been a lifesaver more than once......but you do have to be patient and learn how to use it.
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Posted on: 2008/12/18 22:17
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Crazy8 | Re: How many of you own | ||
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I've got a set for my 86 Vette and my 08 Vette. I can't live without them. Had a set for my 93 and 01 Vettes, but sold them when I sold the cars.
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Posted on: 2008/12/19 16:36
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Mr_Mojo | Re: How many of you own | ||
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I have a set for each car and for my truck I don't own anymore.
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Posted on: 2008/12/21 19:15
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WW7 | Re: How many of you own | ||
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Posted on: 2008/12/25 18:18
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Midnight85 | Re: How many of you own | ||
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I have one for my '85 and it has been a lifesaver more than once,,,,, when I can find what it is I want to read about. They are made the way GM wanted it, the time it takes a tech to find the info he needs is added to the customers bill making them that much more profit.
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Posted on: 2008/12/26 19:16
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Raidmagic | Re: How many of you own | ||
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I've got one for the 87. I also use the Haynes as they will give you locations of the item you are looking for and the FSM will tell you how it works. I've gotten better at finding things throughout the manuel as I've used it too.
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Posted on: 2008/12/26 20:08
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brut | Re: How many of you own | ||
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I have one for my '88 and it has been great when I needed it and could find the info I needed.
I found as much use out of the C4 parts manual I have on CD that someone sent me. |
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Posted on: 2008/12/26 20:50
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BillH | Re: How many of you own | ||
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Do you know where the parts manual CD came from? I'd like to get one. Thanks; |
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Posted on: 2008/12/26 23:06
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Matatk | Re: How many of you own | ||
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Hey Bill, I bought it off ebay for like six bucks. It's a pdf if you want a copy.
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Posted on: 2008/12/27 1:27
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klkordzi | Re: How many of you own | ||
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One of the first things I bought after getting my 85. I've used it a lot.
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Posted on: 2008/12/30 2:03
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